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Apple Said to Be in Talks to Buy Beats for $3.2 Billion

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Re: Apple Said to Be in Talks to Buy Beats for $3.2 Billion

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I cannot figure out any way to reconcile the incredibly poor quality of Beats products with a hopeful future for Apple. Can someone make the argument for why this is a good idea?

Some are speculating that Apple is more interested in the beats music streaming service. I'm not sure I buy that -- doesn't Apple nearly have its own? Even if they don't, surely they've got the foundation set to build one quite effortlessly.

I agree. If they can't build a streaming service on the back of itunes, why would they need beats?

I'm sure Beats, Pandora, Spotify, or any other streaming service would have killed to launch with the full support of the iTunes ecosystem.

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My understanding is iTunes radio is Pandora, not Spotify. Big difference. One is Internet radio, the other a true music subscription service.

They've got iTunes Match and iTunes radio, which are both similar to but just slightly to either side of Spotify.

I use iTunes Match and iTunes radio, and still use Spotify to be able to search and play any song I want without having to buy it.

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As I see it it's not for the hardware, but for the streaming service and for Jimmy Iovine and his connections/knowledge in the music industry. I don't know how he could fit with Eddy Cue but I think Jimmy Iovine would bring a lot if he was in charge of the music services in iTunes.

Apple saved the music business with iTunes. Why do they need Jimmy Iovine's connections? I don't see why they need Jimmy Iovine for anything.

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They are over marketed a bit and over priced, sure, but just as much as Bose, B&O and a lot of other premium sound brands. How do they objectively have "incredibly poor quality"? Do you have a link that support they have really poor sound quality or bad build quality or horrible customer satisfaction rate?

Bose is a damn bad example as a premium brand to compare Beats to. Their consumer headphones are widely considered to be way overpriced and gimmicky. The brands Beats should really be compared to are Sennheiser, Shure, A-T, Denon, Beyerdynamic and the like. Any offerings from these brands at a price point from $100 and up offer at least as good sound quality as Beats' cans and for a much lower price, and many of thei…

Bose professional and aviation products are actually superior to Apple quality. Their consumer noise canceling is pretty good. I agree about their consumer speakers.

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Fun fact: Beats' industrial design lead is Robert Brunner, Jony Ive's predecessor as Director of Industrial Design at Apple.

Interesting. Brunner tried to hire him several times apparently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqJVHe6LN4E

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Brunner

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Quality when applied to speakers and headphones is typically demonstrated by frequency response, with a perfectly flat response being the pinnacle. Headphones like Beats appeal to people who have only had bargain headphones (think a few bucks), and they do this by having attractive packaging and just basically amping up the bass response because bass has a "wow factor".

A flat response is rarely desirable, or at least rarely intended, except for equipment designed for audio production.

Typically you aim for as much of the audible spectrum as possible with as flat of a response as possible... From there you adjust for personal listening preferences. Some cans tend to accentuate bass a bit, others mids or trebs. Flat headphones are preferred for mixing/mastering of course. That's about as objective a measure as you can find.

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> You think they can't do their own licensing deal? When you are the richest guy in town it is hard to negotiate a good deal. It is probably much smarter to just buy Beats. If they bought Spotify, they would be stuck supporting Android and Windows customers. The $3B price probably reflects the current profitability of the headphone line. For what it is worth, audio brands seem to have staying power. I am not sure if…

I don't understand your argument. Beats also supports Android and Windows, like Spotify.

My assumption is that Spotify has so many passionate customers that killing the Windows/Android apps would earn Apple enough bad karma, they could never do it. Apple could kill Beats Music, integrate it into itunes, and the small number of customers can't kick up enough stink for Apple to care.

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They are over marketed a bit and over priced, sure, but just as much as Bose, B&O and a lot of other premium sound brands. How do they objectively have "incredibly poor quality"? Do you have a link that support they have really poor sound quality or bad build quality or horrible customer satisfaction rate?

“In terms of sound performance, they are among the worst you can buy,” says Tyll Hertsens, editor in chief of InnerFidelity.com, a site for audiophiles. “They are absolutely, extraordinarily bad.” http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/20/business/beats-headphones-...

I have also read a lot of complaints about their streaming app being just plain garbage as well.
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