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Re: Why I won’t work for Google

#61
post #11

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Yeah, I suppose you (hpaavola) have one or more thing to teach Cloudflare about how to deal with traffic (which this host is using as frontend)?

Cloudflare is not having any issue, it's just used here as a proxy to help with caching and static files. The real server hosting the application is down. However this comment was a bit useless.

Cached version: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Ahttp...

(Ironically by Google)

Re: Why I won’t work for Google

#62

All mainstream modern technology companies are in a no win tragic situation. They are accountable to the state which overrides their ability to make any kind of actual independent decisions when the interests of the state are at stake. Going against this would be an exercise in futility and you may well end up in prison for doing so. Getting angry at them for what they are forced at gunpoint to do is just wasted ener…

All they can do is stick to the letter of the law. That's not all that they can do. Google, Apple, Facebook, Microsoft, Amazon, et al. are some of the most powerful entities in the US besides the oil industry. They matter to the US economy, and for that reason they are clearly in a position to influence government decisions. This has both positive and negative outcomes. Since trust in terms of privacy is important to…

Influencing government decisions is typically done by lobbying, handing more power to the state by way of smothering them in funds. Yes you might get your pet project some extra attention, but it's likely that the funds you use to accomplish that objective will be used for heinous ends elsewhere. It's much like negotiating with terrorists from a game theoretic perspective.

Other alternatives are massive public awareness campaigns with regards to any given issue, but these appear to be losing potency as it becomes clear that basically everything the state is doing is broken from the perspective of citizens in some way, and they are not much interested in "fixing it" as it is working perfectly from the perspective of political parasites.

The only unalloyed good that can probably be done is financially contributing to improved security and other technological innovations that directly thwart the interests of the state. Doing so more advances the interests of their potential free market competitors than their own however.

Re: Why I won’t work for Google

#63
post #57

All mainstream modern technology companies are in a no win tragic situation. They are accountable to the state which overrides their ability to make any kind of actual independent decisions when the interests of the state are at stake. Going against this would be an exercise in futility and you may well end up in prison for doing so. Getting angry at them for what they are forced at gunpoint to do is just wasted ener…

> All mainstream modern technology companies are in a no win tragic situation. Actually the big companies (and to a lesser degree other significant entities like Wikipedia) that essentially hold the keys to the Internet and have the money -- if anyone, they are in a position to change things. They have tremendous power. Think civil disobedience. Corporate disobedience? There are many legal as well as illegal things t…

> Think civil disobedience. Corporate disobedience?

Not a great approach, see Lavabit and associated businesses. Or that telco executive who was imprisoned (Qwest, thanks rwallace) on trumped up charges due to not playing ball with the national security apparatus to the requisite degree of submission. You paint a target on your back taking this path in a big way, it's simply not worth the risk to insulate people from the consequences of their own political decisions.

Re: Why I won’t work for Google

#64
post #30

The primary reason I won't work for Google is because I'm nowhere near smart enough. But I like to tell myself that the ethical shortcuts they've taken in pursuit of the almighty dollar are a good secondary reason. It's just that I don't need a secondary reason, so yay, consequence-free ethics!

It's not enough to be smart, you have to convince them that you're smart. And if the recruiters dislike you for whatever reason, there's nothing you can do about it.

Re: Why I won’t work for Google

#65
post #30

The primary reason I won't work for Google is because I'm nowhere near smart enough. But I like to tell myself that the ethical shortcuts they've taken in pursuit of the almighty dollar are a good secondary reason. It's just that I don't need a secondary reason, so yay, consequence-free ethics!

Google in the beginning made hiring PhD types a priority but that has absolutely changed in recent years. It would be truly surprising if they would turn down someone with an exceptional list of open source projects or working experience.

Re: Why I won’t work for Google

#66
post #30

The primary reason I won't work for Google is because I'm nowhere near smart enough. But I like to tell myself that the ethical shortcuts they've taken in pursuit of the almighty dollar are a good secondary reason. It's just that I don't need a secondary reason, so yay, consequence-free ethics!

Mm. These sort of posts ("Why I won't work for Google", "Why I won't sign your NDA", "Why I won't do your technical interview") often come across as having a different agenda, and not necessarily one based on insecurity.

Re: Why I won’t work for Google

#67
post #47

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cache:qnrq.se/why-i-wont-work-for-google/

I don't know if ironic is the right word, but it certainly is funny reading the Google's cached version of the article.

And I suppose in a Google browser too, because as I expected, my Firefox doesn't know what to do with cache: URLs.

Re: Why I won’t work for Google

#68
post #57

All mainstream modern technology companies are in a no win tragic situation. They are accountable to the state which overrides their ability to make any kind of actual independent decisions when the interests of the state are at stake. Going against this would be an exercise in futility and you may well end up in prison for doing so. Getting angry at them for what they are forced at gunpoint to do is just wasted ener…

> All mainstream modern technology companies are in a no win tragic situation. Actually the big companies (and to a lesser degree other significant entities like Wikipedia) that essentially hold the keys to the Internet and have the money -- if anyone, they are in a position to change things. They have tremendous power. Think civil disobedience. Corporate disobedience? There are many legal as well as illegal things t…

A company called Qwest tried that, and its CEO ended up in prison on trumped-up charges of insider trading. Calls for other people to become martyrs for your favorite cause don't have a lot of moral authority in my book.

Re: Why I won’t work for Google

#69
post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know if ironic is the right word, but it certainly is funny reading the Google's cached version of the article.

And I suppose in a Google browser too, because as I expected, my Firefox doesn't know what to do with cache: URLs.

Stick it into Google: http://google.com/search?q=cache:qnrq.se/why-i-wont-work-for...
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