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#61
post #28

The non-retina 13" Macbook Pro seems less and less relevant.

I'm surprised they didn't get rid of it today.

I agree. One thing Steve Jobs seemed pretty keen on was a rational, minimal product line.

Allowing the product line to evolve and fit all the little niches crevices is not Apple's style.

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#62
post #32

Still, no 16 GB memory. The only thing left tying me to the MBP.

Really ? With an SSD you can even go with 2GB of RAM you won't see any difference.

yeah the 2GB part was a bit too much. Especially for Mavericks requirements (I was not aware).

My point is, with an SSD, you can swap, it won't be slow as the good old HDD days. On my workstation with 8GB of RAM and a 512 SSD (MBPr), I often have 8 or more GB swapped, it's not noticeable at all.

The only downside is that yeah, the VM file size will reduce your actual available disk space until you clean it up (reboot).

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#63

The non-retina 13" Macbook Pro seems less and less relevant.

It has a slightly faster processor (don't be fooled by "1.3GHz", the MBA's top CPU speed is 2.6GHz) but there's a 500GB non-solid-state hard drive, it's heavier, the graphics are older, and it has a lower-resolution screen. Why would anyone want it?

I think for a lot of people the issue is storage. Most don't know the difference between an ssd and a mechanical hard drive and don't want to have to pay an exorbitant sum to get to 500+ gb. They have lots of pictures and music and other things they want to keep around, even if they rarely access them.

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#64
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's probably a diminishing use-case, but I personally still need an ethernet port. There's a surprising number of times when I visit somewhere (offices, universities) and they can't figure out how to get me logged onto the guest wifi, but I can just plug in to the wired network without a problem. Also some hotels have only ethernet, though that's getting less common.

Yeah, go and buy a thunderbold ethernet cable, they are really cheap and work fantastically. The only downside is on Linux you have to reboot if you unplug the ethernet, but apparently that's being improved in 3.15.

What happens if you don't reboot?

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#65
post #42

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Really ? With an SSD you can even go with 2GB of RAM you won't see any difference.

You completely misunderstand memory. 4GB is the bare minimum for Mavericks, any less and even on an SSD you're delving into swap hell. 8GB is really skimpy to have just as an upgrade option, I'm constantly hitting my limits on 16GB (though admittedly my workload isn't typical).

yeah with 4GB you'll swap a lot, but as an SSD is really fast (no as fast as RAM of course, but still..) you won't notice it a lot.

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#66

The non-retina 13" Macbook Pro seems less and less relevant.

It has a slightly faster processor (don't be fooled by "1.3GHz", the MBA's top CPU speed is 2.6GHz) but there's a 500GB non-solid-state hard drive, it's heavier, the graphics are older, and it has a lower-resolution screen. Why would anyone want it?

Given that, the MBP is also turbo-boost to 3.1 GHz.

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#67
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, go and buy a thunderbold ethernet cable, they are really cheap and work fantastically. The only downside is on Linux you have to reboot if you unplug the ethernet, but apparently that's being improved in 3.15.

What happens if you don't reboot?

It doesn't work :).

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#68
post #43
post #41

I still wonder, how well is windows 7 or windows 8.1 supported ? how fast does xcode runs on it ?

Windows is supported. I imagine Xcode is almost completely unusable with that CPU and the tiny amount of RAM.

I use XCode on the previous generation, it's fine. Interface Builder bogs down on large Storyboard situations but aside from that it more than happily runs XCode, Photoshop, Simulator and all the usual expected tools (iTerm 2, Chrome, Sublime, Spotify/iTunes/whatever music player) without much complaining.

Re: New MacBook Air Released – $100 Cheaper

#69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It has a slightly faster processor (don't be fooled by "1.3GHz", the MBA's top CPU speed is 2.6GHz) but there's a 500GB non-solid-state hard drive, it's heavier, the graphics are older, and it has a lower-resolution screen. Why would anyone want it?

I think for a lot of people the issue is storage. Most don't know the difference between an ssd and a mechanical hard drive and don't want to have to pay an exorbitant sum to get to 500+ gb. They have lots of pictures and music and other things they want to keep around, even if they rarely access them.

Yeah. They go in to the Apple Store and the salesmen says that SSD is faster. But the buyer has heard that computers will be faster a lot in their lives, and usually it's only a 10-25% performance increase, which isn't that noticeable. So they don't put much stock in that. We're all so used to SSDs that the huge performance gains don't surprise us anymore.

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#70

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Yes, I suppose the Ethernet is useful. But it doesn't seem worth sacrificing everything else for. Why not just get a USB or Thunderbolt Ethernet adapter?

Huh, I hadn't seen the Thunderbolt ones. The USB ones are notorious for not really working (they seem to have driver issues). Hopefully the Thunderbolt ones are better?

Thunderbolt is just PCIe under the hood, so it would hopefully work as well as a PCIe Gigabit Ethernet one.

Although the fact it's Apple-made is probably more important, since they'll have made sure it works.

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