I had the same situation. I worked for in a hybrid software engineering/operations role for a large Internet firm, while studying part-time. It was a great and challenging position, not just due to its content (how do you deal with running tens of thousands of nodes in clusters distributed throughout the world?) but the people and the environment (it was one of the few places where you could find people in an operati…
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#62I am 44 I have house, wife, 3 kids. When I was 23 I was freaking clueless, though I didn't think so at the time. (There is a good chance I still am clueless) School was easy, Navy was easy, studying and taking tests and getting good scores was easy. I was bored and figured there wasn't much else to be done. I was completely wrong about that.
So coming from an old guy. I would suggest dumping your easy job and finding one that is challenging for you. There are plenty of hard problems to solve. All of the sharpest people I know never let go of a hard problem until they figure it out, and they refuse to slog through the easy stuff like some kind of drone. There are surprisingly few people in this category. All of the sharpest people I know read continuously about a wide variety of things, and they build or write about things based on their reading. All of the sharpest people I know put down the keyboard and have some other really interesting thing they do.
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#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
If I were to talk to him directly I would tell him to either drop out of school and be hardcore at his work, or drop out of work and be hardcore with school. At this point in his life he hasn't actually finished or built a damn thing, academically or professionally, and he's wondering why he's going soft. Like he was some kind of superstar and now he's past the prime of his life? LOL. I mean I realize I'm being kind…
You're being slightly presumptious about me not having 'actually finished or built a damn thing, academically or professionally', regardless of whether or not that claim is true. I never once stated that I was disappointed with my accomplishments (whatever they may be), only that I wished to retain (or increase) the level of mental acuity that I have manged to gain so far. For you to derive anything from a conclusion…
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#641) Find your "sweet spot" of how many hours of sleep you need and make sure you get it. My sweet spot is right around 7hrs. If I go long or short of this for long periods I lose my edge. Apparently the number of hours required will fall as you age and if you have kids, well unfortunately you will be pulling short hours for a while.
2) Start each day with a regular routine. I use the Franklin Planner but the idea is sit down with cup of coffee without interruptions and decide what you want to get done today -- its called dayplanning in the Franklin system. Should only take about 20 minutes. Anything that needs to be done tomorrow or later that week forget about it, let it go and fully concentrate on the tasks for TODAY. (Yes, you need some kind of system to track things not necessarily the Franklin system but I like it and I recommend it.)
3) As an adjunct to dayplanning I do the daily crossword in the paper to get my mind going in the morning. You'd be surprised not just how that gets the morning cob webs out but also its a form of measurement of how sharp my mind is. Often I can tell from that if I'm coming down with a cold or subconsciously distracted by something that I need to deal with -- either can undermine sharpness.
4) I love coffee but too much is bad (esp in the afternoon) so watch the consumption of drugs... caffeine, alcohol, even OTC drugs like tylenol, advil, etc. Alcohol dulls my edge for 2 days if I drink more than a glass of wine or a beer with a meal.
5) Write a daily journal or diary. Its good to get all the ideas and emotions floating around in your head down on paper in black and white. You might be surprised at things you discover about yourself and others that you were just peripherally aware of until you write. Look for and correct any contradictions in your ideas and values since implicit contradictions interfere with integration and smooth operation of your mind.
6) Get regular exercise but don't over do it. Consider going low-carb. The brain operates equally well on ketones or glucose but many (including my self) find that low carb diet gives me more focus. Read Gary Taubes book "Good Calories, Bad Calories" for the real deal on the science behind low carb and the lack of science behind the modern diet offered by current medicine/nutritionist.
7) Make a distinction between a job and a career. A job pays the bills but does not challenge you intellectually. I currently have a job in IT that I like but its not something that fully engages my mind. Ideally you want a career but not everyone can get that. A career should be an open-ended field (i.e. lifelong challenges) that is commensurate with your abilities. If you have a job like me then you need to have other outside activities that challenges your mind. If you don't do this your mind will atrophy.
8) Read books and articles outside you main areas of interest and pickup other hobbies that force you out of your comfort zone such as learning a musical instrument or dance, etc. I meet new people in my job and I always like to ask them what do they do for a living, most people are happy to talk about themselves and I am always amazed at the things I learn from others.
9) Sadly, I must warn you that once you hit your late 30's or early 40's you mind just won't be as sharp. So all you youngsters out there do your hard thinking when you are young.
10) Make time for family, girlfriend, wife, etc but set clear boundaries so they don't interrupt or interfere with your thinking time. This is hard to do ;-)
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#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
If I were to talk to him directly I would tell him to either drop out of school and be hardcore at his work, or drop out of work and be hardcore with school. At this point in his life he hasn't actually finished or built a damn thing, academically or professionally, and he's wondering why he's going soft. Like he was some kind of superstar and now he's past the prime of his life? LOL. I mean I realize I'm being kind…
You're being slightly presumptious about me not having 'actually finished or built a damn thing, academically or professionally', regardless of whether or not that claim is true. I never once stated that I was disappointed with my accomplishments (whatever they may be), only that I wished to retain (or increase) the level of mental acuity that I have manged to gain so far. For you to derive anything from a conclusion…
if you wanted better advice you should have provided more background, 'californiaguy' may not have been politically correct but that does not detract from the fact that he spent some time answering you.
If you have finished or built things academically or professionally you could point to them, which would give a more solid base for this whole discussion.
You are asking for inference, some of that inference is going to be on the spot, some of it will be wildly off the mark, if you supply more information you can guide the bandwidth of the results you will receive.
The last line of his post pretty clearly indicates that he realizes that he may be off in his estimate because he feels like coming across as an asshole. (I won't debate that point...).
Advice - any advice - is worth what you paid for it.
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#67Why do you think you are not sharp? I bet your problem is that all of your problems in your current business domain are solved and you are bored, not dull. What is a little dull is reading through lists of academic achievements and future academic proposals or thoughts. It comes across a little like trolling for compliments. I am 44 I have house, wife, 3 kids. When I was 23 I was freaking clueless, though I didn't th…
As to staying sharp: I used to think I used to learn really easily.
But then I did some digging and found that in general it took me always at least 3 tries to master some new subject.
The first a brush up, look at and small understanding.
The second when having to do something in or with it and a slightly deeper understanding.
The third when the coin finally drops and I felt that I had mastered the subject.
Between the three phases there can be arbitrarily long breaks.
When I was young and had few responsibilities it would not take long to get through these three phases because I simply had little else to do.
Now that I'm older and have a fair bit of other stuff on my plate I find that the 'breaks' in between last longer. But the actual learning does not, in fact if anything it goes faster.
So all this may simply be due to an illusion, where 'wall time' vs 'process time' are further apart than they used to be and you're measuring by 'wall time'.
You're probably every bit as sharp if not sharper than you used to be, but you perceive it to be otherwise.
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#68It most definitely isn't just something you have to accept and deal with. Staying sharp takes effort, but it's worth it. And you don't need to upset your work/life balance or carve out massive portions of your week to do this. You do, however, need to make some time for yourself and your brain even if it's just an hour in the morning while you have your coffee. The most important thing I could tell you is to read you…
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#69Brain starts declining at 27 http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/03/17/148217
As an extreme example, check out this article: http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v447/n7141/full/nature0... (ignore the title, the 'chromatin remodelling' is not the important part here)
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#70I had the same situation. I worked for in a hybrid software engineering/operations role for a large Internet firm, while studying part-time. It was a great and challenging position, not just due to its content (how do you deal with running tens of thousands of nodes in clusters distributed throughout the world?) but the people and the environment (it was one of the few places where you could find people in an operati…
Scientific software development is something I've considered, and it's becoming more and more appealing as a possible alternative to me. However, I'm not very familiar with the current players in that industry. Do you know of any companies that specialize in this?
If you're in San Francisco Bay Area (or want to be in Bay Area, perhaps you could finish your degree at Stanford/UCSC/SJSU/SFSU/SCU?) and know (or would like to learn) Perl, C (and some Java), there's a really interested job opening I found on a local Perl mailing list. It's related to bioinformatics, which is different from your background but nonetheless would be something that "keep you sharp".
Another option that's even more closely related to what you're doing now is perhaps picking up machine learning/NLP/information retrieval. It's very heavy on (mostly continous) mathematics/numerical analysis. I have a feeling somewhere that you're probably pretty good with dealing with sparse matrices, graphs and the like. There's tons of Internet/e-commerce companies doing more and more with that.