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There’s scant evidence that healthy foods prevent cancer or fatty foods cause it

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Re: There’s scant evidence that healthy foods prevent cancer or fatty foods cause it

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Diets are easy.

Don't eat anything that is advertised on TV. If an actor in a televised 30 second play convinced you to eat it, you probably shouldn't.

Apart from that, invest in good quality scales. When the numbers go up, change your behaviour until the numbers go back down again.

Oh, and quit making endless excuses in your head. They are just lies you tell yourself. If you really want to be healthier, than just go ahead and do it.

Re: There’s scant evidence that healthy foods prevent cancer or fatty foods cause it

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Now this is what I call dogfooding your own recommendations: That evening at a reception hosted by the M.D. Anderson Cancer Center, guests partook of a sumptuous buffet that included thick slabs of roast beef, a variety of rich cheeses and generous servings of wine. Afterward came the cancer research association’s grand celebration known for its dessert buffet.

Yeah, it had been 10 years since the first convention which got all preachy about healthy diets. So these folks had all that pent up diet-rebellion, and then the convention says, "Nevermind." They promptly went and pigged out.

Re: There’s scant evidence that healthy foods prevent cancer or fatty foods cause it

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>> "The claim most paleo advocates seem to be making is that you should eat food that the body is adapted to eating." In full, their claims fall closer to the following: P1. You should eat healthy foods. P2. Foods that the body is "adapted" to eating are healthy. P3. If paleolithic humans ate something, it means our bodies are "adapted" to it. C. We should eat what paleolithic humans ate. The problems with the above…

Let's put that straw man logic more realistically: P1. If you want to have a good degree of health without requiring modern medicine, you should eat food that gives you a good degree of health without requiring modern medicine P2. Successfully reproducing in an environment without modern medicine requires food that supports or does not tarnish a good degree of health P3. Paleolithic humans successfully reproduced in…

>> P3. Paleolithic humans successfully reproduced in an environment without modern medicine

Many paleolithic humans did not successfully reproduce. Many died before being able to. Humans continued to exist because enough successfully reproduced.

Unless your personal health goal is that a sizable proportion of your cohort survive to reproduce successfully, this is not particularly helpful reasoning.

In any event, you are highly likely to make it to child-rearing age in economically developed countries. Our health problems occur later.

Re: There’s scant evidence that healthy foods prevent cancer or fatty foods cause it

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Cancer is like a random process. When enough mutated cells gets into a certain neighborhood of events which lead to cancer, that's how it starts. When I went to Aruba with my friend, a sailor there told us that most sailors eventually got melanoma from being out allthe time. That's what made me realize this.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2515569/

Doesn't this contradict the original article?

Re: There’s scant evidence that healthy foods prevent cancer or fatty foods cause it

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Why? It's lke saying "Craps is a random. If you roll the dice at Vegas all the time, eventually you will lose your bankroll."

Because they are in conflict. "Cancer is like a random process" is saying that it can happen equally to anyone. "Most sailors eventually got melanoma from being out all the time" is showing that it does not happen equally to anyone. Your example isn't accurate.

Random means unpredictable/non deterministic, it does not have to be equally distributed. Normal dice throws 6 with the same probability as 1. Biased dice that throws 6 twice as much as 1 is still random, but it does not throw numbers equally

Smokers have significantly higher chance to get cancer then non-smokers, but they are not guaranteed to have it. Both smokers and non-smokers can get lung cancer and it is biased random whether you will get it or not.

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