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LibreSSL
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Re: LibreSSL
#62One annoying thing about OpenSSL is its license. I hope The Better Replacement™ fixes that as well (especially if its name gets to contain the string "Libre"), and it is not going to happen by forking OpenSSL.
They are already placing completely rewritten files under ‘better’ licenses, so the license switch might happen file-by-file over a long period of time.
Re: LibreSSL
#63Comic sans?? lol! This page scientifically designed to annoy web hipsters. Donate now to stop the Comic Sans and Blink Tags
Mine doesn't show up in comic sans. However, the link to OpenSSL is to We're Not Gonna Take It ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRCGDUsdRDU )... This all seems like a joke to me.
The OpenBSD Foundation donation page mentions and links back to this site...
Re: LibreSSL
#64It should rename to LibibreSSL instead, so that one can link the library with `-libressl`. Other than that, I appreciate this effort (no pun intended).
Why wouldn't they just make it available for linking as "ibressl" rather than naming the project that? LibibreSSL is unwieldy to put it mildly, and meaningless without the context of the original name.
Re: LibreSSL
#65One annoying thing about OpenSSL is its license. I hope The Better Replacement™ fixes that as well (especially if its name gets to contain the string "Libre"), and it is not going to happen by forking OpenSSL.
They use ISC for new files they add:
http://freshbsd.org/commit/openbsd/4e62360b677d95b324fe5f0e1...
Re: LibreSSL
#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well I disagree. Whilst it's a natural choice for portability, when you port to a proprietary platform such as windows you lose a lot of the support and portability guarantees that POSIX gives you and the calling conventions and standards of many libraries. At this point it's advisable to pick a holistic 3rd party abstraction over this such as something right from APR to Qt that will abstract the platform specific im…
This is all great, but the fact remains that OpenSSL is very widely used on Windows and yanking it out without providing a drop-in replacement option is a bad idea. We can debate finer nuances of proper abstraction to the death, but it doesn't move a needle for people who already have OpenSSL dependencies in their code.
> the fact remains that OpenSSL is very widely used on Windows and yanking it out without providing a drop-in replacement option is a bad idea
The LibreSSL guys are not yanking anything out of Windows, they're just providing an alternative to OpenSSL, for all the world to use, for free.
They're not under any obligation to support Windows, no matter how bad you want them to.
Re: LibreSSL
#67Comic sans?? lol! This page scientifically designed to annoy web hipsters. Donate now to stop the Comic Sans and Blink Tags
While it is funny, I think using Comic Sans is actually more hipstery than ranting against it, which is too mainstream today (the same goes for blink tags).
Re: LibreSSL
#68As someone without the Microsoft fonts using a browser that doesn't support the blink tag, I've totally missed out on the experience :(
I cannot even read the text on iPad.
Re: LibreSSL
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
Agreed. This is a bit scary. I feel the resources would be better off focusing on merging with the official OpenSSL project rather than forking and _then_ asking for funding, essentially taking any potential funding from the official OpenSSL project.
I'd hope that I speak for the majority here when I say that OpenSSL has had its chance. This is the beauty of open source, nothing more. We can take this and make it better.
Quite frankly unless LibreSSL manages to raise more than 2000$ a year (what the OpenSSL fundation makes, apparently) I fail to see how they hope to avoid encountering the same kind of problems OpenSSL did (and still does). And given that the OpenBSD projects had to beg for donations to reach a 150k$ goal, if memory serves, I doubt they'll be able to sink a tremendous amount of money into LibreSSL.
If you can't pay people to work on the project full time, properly test and audit the code, sooner or later something will go wrong. And then we'll see people over here commenting along the lines of "my god those people are incompetent/irresponsible, they hope to get a free pass because it's free and open source, etc..."
Also, until I see a first release of the lib it's just marketing as far as I'm concerned, after all the OpenBSD foundation announced OpenCVS in 2004...
Re: LibreSSL
#70OpenBSD folks, what is your obsession with CVS????
Why are people so obsessed with getting the OpenBSD developers to move from CVS? If it works for them and do what they need there's no need to move.