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Apple again offers matte screen option for 15-inch MacBook Pro

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Re: Apple again offers matte screen option for 15-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by Tichy »

figital wrote: post #17

The glossy screens are certainly nicer for watching crisp video. I wish I had gotten the matte screen as I don't watch much on my computer. (Glossy certainly looks better in the showroom) I did buy a screen protector at the Mac Store for my iTouch which mimics a matte finish on top of the glossy screen. If I were to buy the upcoming larger-screen iTouch tablet I would highly recommend getting a matte finish to cut do…

Actually I don't like video on my MacBooks glossy screen. The reason is that dark backgrounds make the reflection much more noticeable. While I work, I tend to have a lot of white in the background, and it is very usable. Videos tend to have a lot of dark scenes, so the reflections get very annoying.

Re: Apple again offers matte screen option for 15-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by pmjordan »

robin_reala wrote: post #48
pmjordan wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's odd, though - in some European countries, the glossy screens are considered ergonomically harmful and are therefore banned from the workplace. So you can't give your employees iMacs, smaller Macbooks, etc. to work on. You'd think Apple would be a bit keener to sell to businesses.

Got a reference for that? I hadn’t heard it before.

It's based on the European council's guideline 90/270/EWG. As far as I can tell, it's up to the countries to implement corresponding laws, and at least Germany and Austria have such laws.

Re: Apple again offers matte screen option for 15-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by robin_reala »

pmjordan wrote: post #62
robin_reala wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Got a reference for that? I hadn’t heard it before.

It's based on the European council's guideline 90/270/EWG. As far as I can tell, it's up to the countries to implement corresponding laws, and at least Germany and Austria have such laws.

Ah, OK. Interestingly, I just checked the UK regulations for this and they define the positioning of the light sources, not the qualities of the screen:

Possible disturbing glare and reflections on the screen or other equipment shall be prevented by co-ordinating workplace and workstation layout with the positioning and technical characteristics of the artificial light sources.

Re: Apple again offers matte screen option for 15-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by jodrellblank »

raquo wrote: post #12
dlevine wrote: post #5

It's interesting how responsive Apple is to customer feedback. A lot of times, customers complain about Apple's new product leaving out some feature, and then the next revision magically incorporates that feature (a good example would be Firewire on the 13-inch macbooks). They aren't at all vocal about this, so people see Apple as being super closed, but I think that they do care a lot about what customers think. The…

They wouldn't have needed to bring back matte displays have they listened to their users and not removed this option in the first place. __ I don't know why they fanatically remove useful features and options. It's 2009, and I can't even choose a _custom_ color to serve as a wallpaper for Mac OS X, only one of _ten_ colors provided by Apple. It's so unimaginably idiotic to have to create a png file for this purpose.

That's an incredibly weak example of a "useful feature or option".

Re: Apple again offers matte screen option for 15-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by jodrellblank »

jpcx01 wrote: post #59

Even for something as trivial as this, this is just one of those weird cases where you look around at the world, and want to yell, "what the hell is wrong with you people"? I don't understand why anyone would own a glossy screen.

Even for something as trivial as this, this is just one of those weird cases where you look around at the world, and wonder "Why are you compelled to post that you don't understand something?"

People are making, selling, designing, buying owning glossy screens. This means your mental model is way out of alignment with reality.

But that's not a problem, there are several explanations in the comments on this very page which you can read and then you will understand why people own glossy screens.

1) That was the only option if you wanted a new MacBook Pro.

2) Even now, it's the cheaper option to purchase.

2) They make blacks look blacker and screens look shinier, which is (subjectively) desirable.

3) Because of this, they're (subjectively) nicer for looking at pictures and movies on.

4) Under many use scenarios, there are no downsides because it's pretty easy to position it so there's no glare.

5) There is no ugly bezel around the edge of the screen as there is for the matte screens so it (subjectively) looks nicer.

6) It's the sort of small thing that can be easily overlooked, or not noticed if ordering online, and someone could end up buying one without knowing in advance that the glare would annoy them, then ignoring it as a minor inconvenience.

Re: Apple again offers matte screen option for 15-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by raquo »

jodrellblank wrote: post #64
raquo wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They wouldn't have needed to bring back matte displays have they listened to their users and not removed this option in the first place. __ I don't know why they fanatically remove useful features and options. It's 2009, and I can't even choose a _custom_ color to serve as a wallpaper for Mac OS X, only one of _ten_ colors provided by Apple. It's so unimaginably idiotic to have to create a png file for this purpose.

That's an incredibly weak example of a "useful feature or option".

Its usefulness is comparable to time and effort required to implement it. Surely there are other, more useful yet still ignored features, like being able to set larger font size in Mac OS.
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