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http://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=sharkfish
I used what is marginally a "swear word" and was modded into oblivion and subsequently banned from HN for that infraction.
Some of you hate being reminded you are hypocrites. I have another account I use where I game you guys and get points. So this one is throwaway as well.
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I expect my kids to eventually outsmart anything I do to hide things from them, long before they are old enough to vote.
Okay. That doesn't change the fact that you can lock down Safari on the iPhone, in direct contradiction of your statement "The browser is far worse. And not restricted." Again, I agree with you in pretty much everything else you're saying. I just think its stupid to pretend like Apple is evil for this particular alleged hypocrisy - "Oh noes, they let kids look at porn without restriction in Safari but ban my dirty wo…
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Okay. That doesn't change the fact that you can lock down Safari on the iPhone, in direct contradiction of your statement "The browser is far worse. And not restricted." Again, I agree with you in pretty much everything else you're saying. I just think its stupid to pretend like Apple is evil for this particular alleged hypocrisy - "Oh noes, they let kids look at porn without restriction in Safari but ban my dirty wo…
Apple is doing the filtering in the app store. People do the filtering on the browser. That is an important difference.
Why are you hung up on this? I'm not saying "don't be pissed at Apple", I'm saying "don't be pissed at Apple for imaginary things".
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I agree with that but someone who has parental controls enabled may not. That's why the feature exists. The "dirty words in dictionaries" battle has already been fought in schools and libraries and it seems Apple is taking the same route. Some words are OK, some aren't. It's not as though an NC-17 rating on the App Store really causes any problems for a developer unlike a movie getting an NC-17 rating which is a big…
" It's not as though an NC-17 rating on the App Store really causes any problems for a developer unlike a movie getting an NC-17 rating which is a big deal still. " I wonder about that. I wrote the Nihongo app, which, like NinjaWords, kept getting rejected until I finally set the rating to 17+. When it was finally in the AppStore, friends told me that an " are you sure, since this app has Frequent/Intense Sexual Cont…
Similarly, I wrote the Jishobot app and had to change its rating up to 17+. I'm calling bullshit on Phil Schiller's response. Am I allowed to say that?
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Yes, exactly. Swearing is negative because of my perception. That doesn't make it correct or incorrect. And Apple is doing me a service when they rate those type of Apps as 17+. It's not censorship. It's about letting the consumer know what they are actually purchasing.
Cue religious fundamentalist iPhone users demanding they be protected from seeing information about evolution or other heretical belief systems - the point being that these judgment calls are terribly subjective. Should other dictionaries (which allow one to look up swear words) also be rated 17+, in your view? Serious question.
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Yes. Gruber touts Schiller's response as 'thoughtful', but what Schiller says is inconsistent with Gruber's own excerpted reporting so far. Bottom-line: Dictionary.com's app contains 'fuck', was released in April (before parental controls), and now has an "age 4+" rating. NinjaWords was given 'fuck' as one of several examples of problem vulgar terms in screenshots and told to resubmit and/or wait for parental control…
Gruber consistently sides with Apple. He is, in essence, a fanboy. There are exceptions, and he's not a moron, so when there's community uproar and obvious stupidity he will say so. But his reporting is heavily pro-apple overall.
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" It's not as though an NC-17 rating on the App Store really causes any problems for a developer unlike a movie getting an NC-17 rating which is a big deal still. " I wonder about that. I wrote the Nihongo app, which, like NinjaWords, kept getting rejected until I finally set the rating to 17+. When it was finally in the AppStore, friends told me that an " are you sure, since this app has Frequent/Intense Sexual Cont…
Well for one thing, Apple does not let you give out promo codes for 17+ apps, which is a big handicap for promotion of your work. Similarly, I wrote the Jishobot app and had to change its rating up to 17+. I'm calling bullshit on Phil Schiller's response. Am I allowed to say that?
http://www.tuaw.com/2009/07/26/update-promo-codes-are-now-al...
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Swearing is only negative because of your own perception. To a lot people they're just words, strong words, but not necessarily negative as you seem to imply.
Yes, exactly. Swearing is negative because of my perception. That doesn't make it correct or incorrect. And Apple is doing me a service when they rate those type of Apps as 17+. It's not censorship. It's about letting the consumer know what they are actually purchasing.
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Do you really think he's talking about jive turkey, ho, bitch, nigga or dawg?
No, I think that where he meant 'extremely vulgar language', he mistakenly reached for a term that has racial connotations.
Do you honestly believe that Schiller was referring to race? If not, do you honestly believe that a substantial portion of other readers would have interpreted it that way? If not, do you honestly belive that it was unreasonable to use the term?
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Well for one thing, Apple does not let you give out promo codes for 17+ apps, which is a big handicap for promotion of your work. Similarly, I wrote the Jishobot app and had to change its rating up to 17+. I'm calling bullshit on Phil Schiller's response. Am I allowed to say that?
As of July 26th, it looks likes promo codes have been allowed again for 17+ apps. http://www.tuaw.com/2009/07/26/update-promo-codes-are-now-al...