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NSA surveillance program reaches ‘into the past’ to retrieve, replay phone calls

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Re: NSA surveillance program reaches ‘into the past’ to retrieve, replay phone calls

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There is no evidence of the NSA recording phone calls of US citizens, that is just speculation.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence in this case.

Absence of evidence is not evidence.

Re: NSA surveillance program reaches ‘into the past’ to retrieve, replay phone calls

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post #53

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These 'rumours' are more like an open secret inside the industry. Personally I have seen billing APIs at AT&T (US) and T-Mobile (US) which are semi-equivalent. For one of those, calls go straight to an Amdocs domain on an AS hosted outside of the carrier. Of course, few people will see these now since Google Play canned external billing APIs (removing most of the interest here) and most new projects choose to access…

> This and other sources concur: the Amdocs billing stuff's like cancer. Once they're in your network, you can't get rid of them So I guess the possible Mossad connection is the only reason why SAP isn't buying Amdocs, then?

Ca you elaborate?

Why would SAP be averse?

Re: NSA surveillance program reaches ‘into the past’ to retrieve, replay phone calls

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There is no evidence of the NSA recording phone calls of US citizens, that is just speculation.

The NSA doesn't have to record phone calls of US citizens. They just get one of the other Five Eyes countries to do it for them, in a quid pro quo arrangement that circumvents the inconvenient rule of law in several places at once. You're carrying water for some seriously un-American people. The only reason you're not upset about it is that it doesn't seem to be affecting you, personally, at the moment.

That is a very good point, this might not have been explicitly said (or I just didn't read about it yet) but I just kind of assumed it works this way. We spy on your people we spy on our people and then we share if we find something interesting.

Other countries also might not have the same supposed privacy guarantees in their constitution so it doesn't even have to be symmetric (say Australians somehow spy both on us and their citizens).

Re: NSA surveillance program reaches ‘into the past’ to retrieve, replay phone calls

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The status quo is then restored. All this article is is chest-pounding by the US to warn potential competitors in the global sphere of influence.

What is wrong with that? The program described in the article is legal.

Slavery was legal once too.

Re: NSA surveillance program reaches ‘into the past’ to retrieve, replay phone calls

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I already linked you the evidence in my previous post. Stop being purposely obtuse. At this point you just seem to be part of another NSA program. [1] I'll just quote the lead: > The US military is developing software that will let it secretly manipulate social media sites by using fake online personas to influence internet conversations and spread pro-American propaganda. And more recently, GCHQ's JTRIG program. [2]…

That is illegal? I see propaganda every time I flip by Fox News.

Stop downvoting what you disagree with....
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