Edward Snowden SXSW live stream

Post by arg01 » Tue, Mar 11, 2014, 6:16 AM UTC

laureny wrote: post #60

krisdol wrote: post #31

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There's a right time and right place to publicly criticize a country's actions, and I think it comes after you no longer depend on that country for political asylum

So basically he's just an opportunist who lives in a country as long as it suits him and then leaves it when he's being inconvenienced?

Yes because he thought his life would be a lot more convinient by realeasing the NSA documents to the world. Generally whistle blowers are seen as having incredibly cushy lives. I too believe that Edward Snowden did it for the fame and fortune that were sure to follow the leak.

I'm sorry if this is overly sarcastic but I do not know what other kind of answer you'd expect. The basis of your question is seems not to be based in reality you might as well ask why the founding fathers didn't believe laws applied to them.

Post by pgeorgi » Tue, Mar 11, 2014, 8:22 AM UTC

laureny wrote: post #59

mcphilip wrote: post #43

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>1. Did he really have the US Constitution as a backdrop? I'm as politically cynical as just about anyone I know. I have no faith in either party. Ron Paul was the only remotely interesting candidate in the primaries, but after he lost I couldn't care less about the Obama vs Romney election. Both are empty suits beholden to the highest bidder. Sure, the parties are great at focusing on polarizing issues like abortion…

> BUT, Snowden is the best example that I know of as a person that really values the plan for the US as laid out by the Constitution and who saw first hand an insidious threat to ignoring those principles without the public even being aware. If there's anyone who has earned the right to call himself a true patriot and defender of the Constitution, it's Edward Snowden. This is naïve at best. At most, he's shown some i…

His alignment with Russia consists of being there trying to catch another flight while his passport was revoked by the US administration.

And the appeals for asylum to non-dictatorships (such as most EU countries) fell on deaf ears - nevermind that asylum in "allied" countries probably isn't safe in the first place. Look at Germany: Every spot within ~150 miles from a US controlled military base or embassy, and known to be used as hub for that extra-legal rendition program (where the German government looked the other way even when the US went after a German citizen).

After the US and UK, such countries are certainly the last place I'd try to hide from the US administration if I had to suspect that they're really eager to get me.

He should also plan his route so that he doesn't cross US-allied airspace - see the grounding of the Bolivian president's plane in Europe over suspicions that Snowden might be a passenger.

With all that, we're not talking about alignment but about a lack of options.

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