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Re: TU-95MS – Soviet Bomber

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Post by 650REDHAIR »

United857 wrote: post #26

"The airplane is not ready to fly. It is necessary to make a technical service and prolongation of the data limit." Guessing something got lost in translation. In any case. as aircraft maintenance isn't my area, any idea how viable/costly it is to get airworthy? Could you even get spare parts anymore?

I volunteered for an Air Force museum and even non-operational/replica parts were expensive and hard to find for aircraft. I would imagine getting this certified/flyable would cost nearly as much as the purchase price when the dust settles.

Re: TU-95MS – Soviet Bomber

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Post by jedmeyers »

ljoshua wrote: post #35
jedmeyers wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, especially "THE Ukraine" part.

That actually used to be the proper way to refer to the country in English, but has since fallen out of common parlance. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine#cite_note-merriam-webst...

Used to. There used to be slaves, but it does not mean that it's acceptable to enslave people now. While slavery and saying "the Ukraine" is not the same, the latter shows the clear lack of geopolitical knowledge.

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Post by jfb »

thearn4 wrote: post #49
Luc wrote: post #17

It took me only a few seconds to find on Google Maps: https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=46.921164,32.083704&spn=0.00... Looks like it has a few siblings, so what you're getting is not as exclusive as you might think... That explains the pictures on the eBay auction appearing to be from different fuselages - they actually are (the two rightmost ones on Google Maps). EDIT: Hmmm, maybe not. Perhaps it's the same plane in…

I found the source of the photo: http://www.panoramio.com/photo/27416195 Not convinced that the auction is legit. By the way, the American version (military aviation graveyard) of this is pretty fun to look around at too: https://www.google.com/maps/@32.1572109,-110.8374108,4128m/d...

Apropos of the A-10 [1] discussion earlier, there are a few Thunderbolts scattered around.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7354214

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Post by harpastum »

jedmeyers wrote: post #63
ljoshua wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That actually used to be the proper way to refer to the country in English, but has since fallen out of common parlance. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine#cite_note-merriam-webst...

Used to. There used to be slaves, but it does not mean that it's acceptable to enslave people now. While slavery and saying "the Ukraine" is not the same, the latter shows the clear lack of geopolitical knowledge.

I understand the point, and I think it is good to correct people when they refer to Ukraine incorrectly.

However, comparing a (typically accidental) prepended word to slavery makes me recoil from your argument. I think it is similar to "Reductio ad Hitlerum"[1]. People who refer to the current country as "The Ukraine" are incorrect, but saying that they are implicitly supporting the history of that name is overreaching.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum

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Post by tormeh »

twoodfin wrote: post #51
trhway wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

there is a reason why US and the others were rushing for Ukraine to give up its nuclear weapons 20 years ago :) See Lord of War too. Interesting how recent developments continue to show the difference between how countries are treated when they have nuclear weapons vs. when they don't have, like North Korea vs. Iraq. Looking at Ukraine i wonder what Iran think :)

To be fair, there are many reasons why North Korea was left alone while Iraq was considered "safer" to invade. Seoul being with range of massive amounts of North Korean artillery is one. The concern of both China and South Korea about the potential for floods of refugees is another.

The most important thing is that China supports NK for ideological reasons. Sure, China would prefer a communist regime that isn't quite as well suited to parody, but it'll take whatever communist regime it gets for propaganda and ideological reasons.

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Post by the_af »

- Seller writes "u" and "dissamble" in "We can therefore dissamble the Plane so u can get one or all of the turbines exclusively"

- Price tag of US $3,000,000.

Well, I'm convinced. Here is my credit card!

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