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Installing VLC Media Player voids your speaker warranty

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Re: Installing VLC Media Player voids your speaker warranty

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What is the current status of the vulnerability in VLC Media Player reported by Secunia? I see that there has been some online discussion of this in places outside Hacker News (which I searched the other day for more information about Secunia's vulnerability report). http://secunia.com/advisories/52956/ http://secunia.com/blog/shooting-the-messenger-372 http://it.slashdot.org/story/13/07/10/1520245/vlc-and-secuni...…

wait, so you currently have an infected computer on your home network?

Re: Installing VLC Media Player voids your speaker warranty

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I had once faced the exact same issue once in Mar 2009, so all I did was called them again after some time from a different number and using a different name and told them that No, VLC was not installed. And I got my warranty upheld and speaker replaced.

Re: Installing VLC Media Player voids your speaker warranty

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How about detecting Dell Speakers and automatically setting the max volume to 100%, with a notification so the user can give an a-ok if they want to go higher. That way, at least users know and can make a decision. Similar to the Android warning if you set your volume too high that it could cause hearing damage. I'd prefer to be warned rather than surprised by this!

That's impractical. VLC is just using the standard OS API to send some sound to speakers. Can you imagine every piece of software checking for every piece of esoteric hardware and having some special behavior? Maybe Microsoft could regulate the output for junk speakers, but really, Dell is the one to blame here.

> Can you imagine every piece of software checking for every piece of esoteric hardware and having some special behavior?

This is what MS Office does. A Microsoft engineer told me once that because many printers lie to the OS about their capabilities, they built a giant lookup table into the Office, that basically consists of "if printer model X, vendor Y and firmware Z, then don't trust it about the fonts onboard, render the text before sending instead".

Re: Installing VLC Media Player voids your speaker warranty

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What is the current status of the vulnerability in VLC Media Player reported by Secunia? I see that there has been some online discussion of this in places outside Hacker News (which I searched the other day for more information about Secunia's vulnerability report). http://secunia.com/advisories/52956/ http://secunia.com/blog/shooting-the-messenger-372 http://it.slashdot.org/story/13/07/10/1520245/vlc-and-secuni...…

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Re: Installing VLC Media Player voids your speaker warranty

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VLC is incapable of increasing the actual power past 100%, all that is being done is the waveform is being modified to be louder within the allowed constraints. If this wrecks the speaker, any other non-VLCed sound could just as easily, and the speakers are therefore underpowered for the laptops internal amplifier. Class action sounds in order.

Also many mastering engineers do the exact same thing to make the music "louder" because the record label/artists demand it. Maybe Dell should start making popular rock/pop music void the warranty as well.

But, mine goes to 110%! (with apologies to Spinal Tap)

Re: Installing VLC Media Player voids your speaker warranty

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Arh, I remember all sort of speaker problem ages ago. Never got around to figure what was wrong. I suppose this is it. But does anyone have list of Manufacture that does provide speaker with BIOS Protection?. Does Apple do?

How would that work? Just detect signals with an abnormally high RMS and block them?

With a compressor or limiter. These are solved problems in both analog and digital signal processing.

Re: Installing VLC Media Player voids your speaker warranty

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post #61

What is the current status of the vulnerability in VLC Media Player reported by Secunia? I see that there has been some online discussion of this in places outside Hacker News (which I searched the other day for more information about Secunia's vulnerability report). http://secunia.com/advisories/52956/ http://secunia.com/blog/shooting-the-messenger-372 http://it.slashdot.org/story/13/07/10/1520245/vlc-and-secuni...…

wait, so you currently have an infected computer on your home network?

Secunia reports that I need to update VLC Media Player on a computer from which I recently removed a lot of malware (with the help of Malware Bytes, of which I have a purchased copy on that computer). I installed Secunia on the same computer, and it has not been able to do its update of VLC Media Player, nor have I been able to get an update of that to install by going directly to the VLC Media Player website and downloading the latest version. That is worrisome.

Would I be better off just completely uninstalling VLC Media Player?

AFTER EDIT: I might have considered a direct answer to my question (whatever the answer was) more helpful than a silent downvote to what was, after all, just a polite response to a question that someone asked me.

AFTER FURTHER EDIT: After some more rebooting of the previously infected computer, the operating system and Secunia both report that VLC Media Player version 2.1.3 is installed, and that is not reported to have any problem by Secunia. So I will leave that alone. The computer from which I usually post to HN, a different computer on the same home network, does not have VLC Media Player installed. I try to keep a close-to-bare-stock set of installed programs on this computer, but other users in my household (= teenage boys who aspire to be hackers) tend to install programs I've never heard of on the other computer on our home network, and my wife, who has other things on her mind, occasionally doesn't notice installations of crapware or adware or bloatware that tag along with legitimate program updates on that computer. So that other computer tends to be the vector for malware attacks on the home network here. Thanks for any further comments participants here have on how to keep a home network safe when not all users follow strict quarantine policies.

Re: Installing VLC Media Player voids your speaker warranty

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What is the current status of the vulnerability in VLC Media Player reported by Secunia? I see that there has been some online discussion of this in places outside Hacker News (which I searched the other day for more information about Secunia's vulnerability report). http://secunia.com/advisories/52956/ http://secunia.com/blog/shooting-the-messenger-372 http://it.slashdot.org/story/13/07/10/1520245/vlc-and-secuni...…

The Secunia security issue SA51464 was never proved, never reproduceable and never fixed...

We did a lot of fuzzing with 2.1.x though and we've fixed all the security issues that were reported.

Re: Installing VLC Media Player voids your speaker warranty

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Not sure if you've ever owned a Dell laptop, but I'll never buy one again. On a couple of occasions I have tried to play DVD's on them and cannot hear people talking with the volume up. Put headphones on and its too loud. Dell speakers are junk.

Um in my experience all laptop speakers of all brands are like that.

I've watched a number of films on a Macbook Air without that particular problem.

They are still terrible speakers, though. I almost laughed when showing a friend Star Wars for the first time; it doesn't even come close to doing the soundtrack justice.

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