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Y Not - YC rejects of the world, unite!

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Re: Y Not - YC rejects of the world, unite!

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Post by tobin »

First I'd like to say congrats and good luck to those who were selected to go to the next round! I'm sure this is going to be a very exciting, yet very nerveracking experience.

For those of you in europe, although it's not quite the same thing as Y Combinator I've been following the Seed Camp blog. This seems to be something that may be of interest to you not in the US. http://www.seedcamp.com/

As for those who got rejected (like me and my partner), just keep on working at it and keep your eyes open to opportunities. We tried and by far that's far better than not trying at all.

t.

Re: Y Not - YC rejects of the world, unite!

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Post by imasr »

At this point, I wonder if we should start sharing YC applications, checking mutual interests and after that decide where, whom and when. Let's take the best out of a loss. If anyone is interested in South America (Buenos Aires) and build a p2p development platform, or need a highly skilled/experienced C++/webstuff programmer, drop me a line: rafael_imas[at]yahoo[dot]com.

Re: Y Not - YC rejects of the world, unite!

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Post by idea »

mdemare wrote: post #44
falsestprophet wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understand that Copenhagen and Amsterdam are thriving tech centers. They are also full of English speakers and beautiful women.

A "thriving tech center" is overstating it a bit for Amsterdam, but we certainly have our share of small web start-ups, and there are plenty of programmers available. The atmosphere is great, the climate is no distraction, (but the nightlife is). Language is not a barrier, but I don't think you should incorporate here - we have high capital requirements. NTIAALOA (not that I am a lawyer or anything).

Current minimal capital requirement is 18000 euro for a Dutch limited company, but a new bill will remove this requirement.

Re: Y Not - YC rejects of the world, unite!

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Post by kmt »

zach wrote: post #57
kmt wrote: post #28

How about gathering in one of the countries that recently joined the EU: Bulgaria, Romania... Living is cheap, labour is cheap, people are smart. Anyone interested? On the other hand conditions there not that professional and engineers don't have adequate experience. Hmm...

This is a great idea simply because it combines two great experiences everyone in their 20s should appreciate - starting your own venture with friends and living in another country for an extended period. Sprout Systems (the original one at sproutit.com, thank you very much, not the one Clustrix merged with) lived in Prague for ten months when developing Mailroom: "The three of us met in school at Point Loma Nazarene…

I'm actually eastern European (Bulgarian) who currently lives and works in US. I'm obviously biased but I think living conditions in eastern Europe are great. The somewhat relaxed atmosphere of those countries is probably great at least while building prototypes.

Re: Y Not - YC rejects of the world, unite!

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Post by kmt »

cooldyood wrote: post #33
yrashk wrote: post #30

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I second it :)

that's a brilliant name..

I think based on that and my other comment in this thread (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=70299) I'd like to start http://ynot.bg for all of us who may be willing to go to Bulgaria and work on their ideas there. Hey, I think I even have 200m2 of class A office space available there. Hmmmm :-)

Re: Y Not - YC rejects of the world, unite!

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Post by cstejerean »

kmt wrote: post #47
danny76 wrote: post #42

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I'm living in Romania. It would be a great place to join up with other entrepreneurs. My biggest problem is finding entrepreneurally-minded people (co-founders). Finding experienced programmers to hire is not a problem, there are plenty. There's an entire outsourcing industry working for US and Western Europe clients. Finding "professional conditions" (office space? net? or what?) is not a problem either. Living cost…

I'd be interested to learn more about Romania. Danny76, please contact me if you wish to discuss this further: kmt at ftml dot net.

Personally I wouldn't recommend Romania as a place to do a startup yet, at least not to incorporate in Romania. I moved to the US from Romania about 7 years ago and while some things have improved in the mean time I think the current system in Romania would impose too many road bloacks for a startup. Great place however to outsource.

Re: Y Not - YC rejects of the world, unite!

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Post by yrashk »

niels wrote: post #60
yrashk wrote: post #31

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Copenhagen is awesome, but realty is expensive. Though Malmo, Sweden is quite close and it is cheaper.

I live in Copenhagen, and often have Canadian and US exchange students subletting rooms at my apartment. They all complain about the living costs here. The web / startup scene is not impressive. The VC's are really conservative, and don't seem to get the early funding scheme. They'd much rather give millions at a later stage. But hey, the women are beautiful :-)

Are Malmo living costs significantly lower?

Re: Y Not - YC rejects of the world, unite!

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Post by imsteve »

kmt wrote: post #28

How about gathering in one of the countries that recently joined the EU: Bulgaria, Romania... Living is cheap, labour is cheap, people are smart. Anyone interested? On the other hand conditions there not that professional and engineers don't have adequate experience. Hmm...

I lived in Bulgaria over the summer while working on my startup. Good fun, very very cheep (but maybe there was some recent inflation? Also the dollar vs euro problem, and the Leva is fixed to the euro.. still extremely cheep though)

It does help greatly to have someone who is a local to negotiate the rent for you though. My girlfriend did this for me and we got an far better deal than an english speaking foreigner probably could.

It is very true that labor was also cheep there.

Re: Y Not - YC rejects of the world, unite!

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Post by imsteve »

jey wrote: post #52
kmt wrote: post #28

How about gathering in one of the countries that recently joined the EU: Bulgaria, Romania... Living is cheap, labour is cheap, people are smart. Anyone interested? On the other hand conditions there not that professional and engineers don't have adequate experience. Hmm...

http://www.paulgraham.com/startuphubs.html

http://www.paulgraham.com/hottoplessgirlsliveineurope.html

Re: Y Not - YC rejects of the world, unite!

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Post by imsteve »

marvin wrote: post #46
falsestprophet wrote: post #29

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I understand that Copenhagen and Amsterdam are thriving tech centers. They are also full of English speakers and beautiful women.

I doubt those beautiful women would enhance your prospects.

In fact, the ugliness of girls in the major startup hubs is probably a feature.
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