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Re: Dear Jailbreak Community

#61

Post by skinnycow »

noblethrasher wrote: post #47
RRRA wrote: post #15

I'm still baffled as to why someone would want to buy a locked up device and be forced to use frequent / complicated measures to be somewhat freed... I understand if you didn't get a choice at first, but I people realizing they are really stuck in a jail anyway, without any jailbreaks, might do more good than having them. (Though I encourage breaking things! ;)

Because sometimes it's simpler to get what you want by subtraction rather than by addition . More formally, my ideal device is x . The iPhone (4s) is at x + δ and all the other smartphones are at x - δn (where δ > 0 and n is a really big number)†. I like the App Store but I don't like the restriction against installing non-approved apps (including my own). I love Safari/Webkit but I don't like the restriction against…

Absurd. Go try an actual, recent, AOSP android phone.

I swear, half the iPhone users I talk to are completely, completely ignorant of what Android does or is these days and it chaps my hide.

That whole math equation is an exercise in self delusion. The things you listed out in that list are 90% of what I use my phone for.

Re: Dear Jailbreak Community

#62

Post by girvo »

UVB-76 wrote: post #27
RRRA wrote: post #15

I'm still baffled as to why someone would want to buy a locked up device and be forced to use frequent / complicated measures to be somewhat freed... I understand if you didn't get a choice at first, but I people realizing they are really stuck in a jail anyway, without any jailbreaks, might do more good than having them. (Though I encourage breaking things! ;)

There are hundreds of millions of happy iPhone users out there. For the overwhelming majority of people, the restrictions on the device are not burdensome.

And for some of us, they are. So, people have different priorities, who knew?

Re: Dear Jailbreak Community

#63

Post by ytjohn »

hollerith wrote: post #49
greenlakejake wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Honestly, I wish Apple would just get with the times and allow an appropriate degree of freedom on their devices An appropriate degree of freedom is different for you and eight year old children or grandparents. The majority of iOS users have no use for the freedom jailbreakers desire and Apple is creating software for the majority of its customers.

That's not an argument against a button in Settings that says, "I understand the risks, now unlock my device."

I like the developer options in android. Just go to about phone and click the build number a large number of times. You basically have to know this exists to seek out the how online and then do it. Almost no one is going to enable this by accident.

Re: Dear Jailbreak Community

#64

Post by TazeTSchnitzel »

breser wrote: post #21
rspeer wrote: post #3

Chrome seems to detect the encoding of this page wrong -- find the deeply-buried "Encoding" menu and set it to UTF-8 for more readability.

Chrome (and Firefox for that matter) are doing what they should be. The default encoding for HTTP is ISO-8859-1 and the Content-Type header doesn't specify a charset, so that is what the browsers are displaying it as.

Wow, why didn't they bother specifying? It's as simple as:

Re: Dear Jailbreak Community

#66

Post by chetanahuja »

DanBC wrote: post #54
greenlakejake wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Honestly, I wish Apple would just get with the times and allow an appropriate degree of freedom on their devices An appropriate degree of freedom is different for you and eight year old children or grandparents. The majority of iOS users have no use for the freedom jailbreakers desire and Apple is creating software for the majority of its customers.

> The majority of iOS users have no use for the freedom jailbreakers desire and Apple is creating software for the majority of its customers. That's not quite true. There's a bunch of minor tweaks that many people would really like that they can only get if they jail break. Since most people are scared of jailbreaking they don't do it. It's hard to understand how different keyboards[1] is inappropriate degree of soft…

"It's hard to understand how different keyboards[1] is inappropriate..."

"[1] to pick one example of a simple, minor, tweak that many people want."

Agree with your point except calling it a "minor tweak". From personal experience, the difference between the stock iOS keyboard and something like Swype on Android is huge. This third party keyboard on Android was so popular and influential that Google finally added swype like functionality in the base OS (I think starting with JB). This is one of the biggest frustrations I have with the iOS experience (whenever I do use iOS, e.g. on my iPad).

Re: Dear Jailbreak Community

#67

Post by reginaldjcooper »

smtddr wrote: post #46
RRRA wrote: post #15

I'm still baffled as to why someone would want to buy a locked up device and be forced to use frequent / complicated measures to be somewhat freed... I understand if you didn't get a choice at first, but I people realizing they are really stuck in a jail anyway, without any jailbreaks, might do more good than having them. (Though I encourage breaking things! ;)

Sometimes you buy it because you like the hardware and know the software is coming down the line. I've done this twice. - I bought an Android phone that had terrible reviews on Amazon come, knowing that there was a cyanogenmod ROM that'd solve everything. - I bought the new Kindle Fire HDX because I love the hardware design and knew a hack would show up for it eventually. Sure enough, the "put_user" kernel memory wri…

I wish we'd collectively only buy things where the root exploit was like ticking an "I want root" checkbox. If buyers collectivized their buying power we wouldn't need to worry about "down the line" companies would release it with root or the product would fail.

Sigh. While I'm at it, I'd also like a sack full of hundreds and a unicorn.

Re: Dear Jailbreak Community

#68

Post by reginaldjcooper »

UVB-76 wrote: post #27
RRRA wrote: post #15

I'm still baffled as to why someone would want to buy a locked up device and be forced to use frequent / complicated measures to be somewhat freed... I understand if you didn't get a choice at first, but I people realizing they are really stuck in a jail anyway, without any jailbreaks, might do more good than having them. (Though I encourage breaking things! ;)

There are hundreds of millions of happy iPhone users out there. For the overwhelming majority of people, the restrictions on the device are not burdensome.

For many people the restrictions protect them from installing malware, and is a huge benefit. For the majority of us reading, I think we know enough to not install weird applications and the restrictions are incredibly burdensome.

Re: Dear Jailbreak Community

#69

Post by reginaldjcooper »

noblethrasher wrote: post #47
RRRA wrote: post #15

I'm still baffled as to why someone would want to buy a locked up device and be forced to use frequent / complicated measures to be somewhat freed... I understand if you didn't get a choice at first, but I people realizing they are really stuck in a jail anyway, without any jailbreaks, might do more good than having them. (Though I encourage breaking things! ;)

Because sometimes it's simpler to get what you want by subtraction rather than by addition . More formally, my ideal device is x . The iPhone (4s) is at x + δ and all the other smartphones are at x - δn (where δ > 0 and n is a really big number)†. I like the App Store but I don't like the restriction against installing non-approved apps (including my own). I love Safari/Webkit but I don't like the restriction against…

I just wanted to write that I like the iOS platform and devices when jailbroken, but I am also sick of their walled garden bullshit. So, cheers for standing up for your principles over your convenience, it takes a strong person to do so.

Re: Dear Jailbreak Community

#70

Post by dasil003 »

reginaldjcooper wrote: post #67
smtddr wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sometimes you buy it because you like the hardware and know the software is coming down the line. I've done this twice. - I bought an Android phone that had terrible reviews on Amazon come, knowing that there was a cyanogenmod ROM that'd solve everything. - I bought the new Kindle Fire HDX because I love the hardware design and knew a hack would show up for it eventually. Sure enough, the "put_user" kernel memory wri…

I wish we'd collectively only buy things where the root exploit was like ticking an "I want root" checkbox. If buyers collectivized their buying power we wouldn't need to worry about "down the line" companies would release it with root or the product would fail. Sigh. While I'm at it, I'd also like a sack full of hundreds and a unicorn.

I look at it this way: if enough people wanted that checkbox to move the needle in the market, then my skillset that a lot of employers find extremely valuable would probably be a lot more common and hence less valuable.
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