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Time to end the war against saturated fat?

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Re: Time to end the war against saturated fat?

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Post by yOutely »

berrypicker wrote: post #38

I think a bigger war to end is that against carbs. The paleo diet trend has gotten out of hand, everybody's afraid to touch bread now. There's evidence both on a large scale (population wide - there are countries like Italy where carbs are abundant in the diet, and others where fats are more common) and in controlled studies, that your carb-calorie to fat-calorie intake ratio makes little difference to your overall h…

You might, because two slices of white bread spikes your blood sugar higher than a can of full sugar coke http://quittingsugar.com/2012/07/11/bread-and-coke-smackdown...

Re: Time to end the war against saturated fat?

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Post by DanBC »

SwellJoe wrote: post #58
DanBC wrote: post #45

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> The evidence that it is more healthy than other oils has all but evaporated, I'm not sure how you reach that conclusion. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23939686 http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/food-matters/2013/10/25/...

Those articles don't seem to talk about canola/rapeseed oil, at all. They seem to cover olive oil, which I stated is thought to be a health oil. Am I missing something? Or, was my parenthetical comment about high heat cooking with olive oil confusing? I was speaking of canola/rapeseed oil when I said the evidence that it is healthy have all but evaporated. Olive oil is great, but burned oil is carcinogenic. Olive oil…

> I was speaking of canola/rapeseed oil when I said the evidence that it is healthy have all but evaporated.

Ah, sorry, I mis-read you.

Re: Time to end the war against saturated fat?

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Post by berrypicker »

yOutely wrote: post #61
berrypicker wrote: post #38

I think a bigger war to end is that against carbs. The paleo diet trend has gotten out of hand, everybody's afraid to touch bread now. There's evidence both on a large scale (population wide - there are countries like Italy where carbs are abundant in the diet, and others where fats are more common) and in controlled studies, that your carb-calorie to fat-calorie intake ratio makes little difference to your overall h…

You might, because two slices of white bread spikes your blood sugar higher than a can of full sugar coke http://quittingsugar.com/2012/07/11/bread-and-coke-smackdown...

Since you're nitpicking, a sandwich isn't just two slices of white bread.

Re: Time to end the war against saturated fat?

#64

Post by yetanotherphd »

nanexcool wrote: post #20
yetanotherphd wrote: post #15

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Do you think that since minority opinions tend to foster a community around then, this also biases people toward minority opinions?

Not going to argue with a stranger on the internet. Rather I'm gonna go out for a run.

So you only respond to people who agree with you and dismiss anyone else? That's pathetic. Enjoy your run.

Re: Time to end the war against saturated fat?

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Post by yetanotherphd »

guruz wrote: post #60
oftenwrong wrote: post #55

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Might as well try prayer healing too. If it works great, if it does not what did you lose?

Bad comparison. Don't underestimate the power of the placebo effect :-) But seriously: Say you are suffering some problem. You would not do something because scientific sounding entity x and y say a solution to this problem does not work, but a lot of other people say the solution works? That's not logic/sane behaviour.

When you delete the word "sounding" it becomes very rational behavior.

Re: Time to end the war against saturated fat?

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Post by yOutely »

berrypicker wrote: post #63
yOutely wrote: post #61

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You might, because two slices of white bread spikes your blood sugar higher than a can of full sugar coke http://quittingsugar.com/2012/07/11/bread-and-coke-smackdown...

Since you're nitpicking, a sandwich isn't just two slices of white bread.

I don't think that a documented, reproducible very high blood sugar spike is nitpicking. I personally think it is reason for concern.

But you are absolutely correct, a sandwich is more than that. The author acknowledges this as well. It would be a fun thing to measure your blood glucose against (as I intend to). From an armchair perspective, the other ingredients in the sandwich may slow down the glucose dump into your bloodstream, but it will likely still dump the same amount, because the bread is still present. Along with the fat storage mechanism that glucose > insulin turns on, the extra ingredients may be more likely to be stored as fat.

I'll respond to this as soon as I complete the experiment!

Re: Time to end the war against saturated fat?

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Post by nanexcool »

yetanotherphd wrote: post #64
nanexcool wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not going to argue with a stranger on the internet. Rather I'm gonna go out for a run.

So you only respond to people who agree with you and dismiss anyone else? That's pathetic. Enjoy your run.

No YOU'RE a towel!
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