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Re: iPad Air Review

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Post by Zak »

One thing that I think gives the iPad a considerable advantage is its 4:3 aspect ratio. Despite having larger bezels on the ends than the sides, it's an inch shorter than a Nexus 10 in its largest dimension.

The article mentioned 10" tablets and 15" laptops seeming to be on the way out. The difference in largest dimension is even more pronounced with laptops. The last 15" 4:3 Thinkpad was 13.2" wide. The current 15" 16:9 models are 14.7" wide. It's about the same thickness and weight with less depth, but it seems like a much bigger machine because its largest dimension is bigger.

Re: iPad Air Review

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Post by ScottWhigham »

ohwp wrote: post #59

I liked to know more about the weight per size, so here a small list: iPad : 680 g / 6186 cm3 = 0.1099 g / cm3 iPad 2 : 601 g / 3944 cm3 = 0.1523 g / cm3 iPad Air: 469 g / 3060 cm3 = 0.1532 g / cm3 iPad 3 : 650 g / 4213 cm3 = 0.1542 g / cm3 iPad 4 : 650 g / 4213 cm3 = 0.1542 g / cm3

I'm trying to understand how you would use that information. Other than "product dimensions" and "product weight", why do you need to calculate/know more? It's interesting and all - I just don't guess I see what the value of knowing the g/cm3 is.

Re: iPad Air Review

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Post by ScottWhigham »

yalogin wrote: post #4

Looks like Apple hit home runs with all of their updates this cycle. Interestingly I haven't seen this universal praise for any other Apple update cycle before. Unfortunately I am not in the market for any device right now.

I would disagree that they hit homeruns on everything. The most obvious "single" would be the iPhone 5C which, by all accounts, is underselling expectations significantly. As a consumer, Apple "lost the game" by not introducing an iPhone with a larger screen size. Why are HTC and Samsung doing so well in the phone market? Because they offer what clearly millions of people want: a 5" screen. If Apple had introduced a 5" screen iPhone this cycle, how many would they have sold? I can't tell you how many people who have, this year, switched from long time iPhones to Samsung/HTC for this reason (my family included).

That said, I'm buying the iPad Air as an upgrade to my iPad 2 and I'll be updating my 2011 MBP as well because I think they've really hit homeruns for those two.

Re: iPad Air Review

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Post by ohwp »

ScottWhigham wrote: post #62
ohwp wrote: post #59

I liked to know more about the weight per size, so here a small list: iPad : 680 g / 6186 cm3 = 0.1099 g / cm3 iPad 2 : 601 g / 3944 cm3 = 0.1523 g / cm3 iPad Air: 469 g / 3060 cm3 = 0.1532 g / cm3 iPad 3 : 650 g / 4213 cm3 = 0.1542 g / cm3 iPad 4 : 650 g / 4213 cm3 = 0.1542 g / cm3

I'm trying to understand how you would use that information. Other than "product dimensions" and "product weight", why do you need to calculate/know more? It's interesting and all - I just don't guess I see what the value of knowing the g/cm3 is.

"It's interesting and all"

Well it's just that. Apple is promoting their size/weight ratio so I just wanted to know there progress. Nothing more nothing less ;)

Re: iPad Air Review

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Post by cmiles74 »

Alterlife wrote: post #43
wozniacki wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would actually say the iPad to iPad 2 transition was a bigger jump, but maybe just because it's so easy to forget how much bigger and bulkier the original iPad was. Are you trolling or are you simply a moron? The dimensions and weight comparison table ( right smack on the first page [1] ) shows the iPad Air is a good 181 grams lighter than the previous version, the iPad 4. The second generation iPad at 601 grams is…

The perceived 'bulkiness' is more than just weight. Drawing from your own link, the original iPad is 13.4 mm thich, the iPad 2 is 8.8 mm. If I remember right the original iPad 1 had no front camera (or was it no cameras at all?). To me that's a huge upgrade.

The original iPad (1) had no camera at all.

Re: iPad Air Review

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Post by j_s »

Segmentation wrote: post #20

I wasn't planning on buying an iPad Air, as I'm still happy with my iPad 2, but that comparison chart on the first page really sold me that the iPad Air is the first real upgrade to the iPad 2. My only complaint is I want high capacity, and I find it so ridiculous that to go from 16GB to 64GB I have to pay $200 extra. Two hundred dollars for 48GB. I think the last time I paid that much for 48GB was ten years ago. Edi…

I was so happy to find a free program to transfer off videos and what-not, but it's still a hassle to have to do so manually ever time it fills up. I wind up using the iPad to capture video so often just because it is what is at hand.

http://www.digidna.net/diskaid/features/iphone-photos-transf...

Re: iPad Air Review

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Post by widdershins »

baddox wrote: post #37
imjoshdean wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not going to hold my breath on the actual RAM number until we see an iFixit teardown. Due to just the shear size, the iPad mini has always had half the ram as the regular sized iPad. I wouldn't be surprised if the Air had 2GB and the Mini had 1 GB.

> Due to just the shear size, the iPad mini has always had half the ram as the regular sized iPad. Might that not have also been due to the iPad mini having a non-Retina display? Or does system RAM not matter much for that?

It matters. You have to hold lots of double resolution images in memory, for example, which obviously eats memory up fast.

Re: iPad Air Review

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Post by apl »

ScottWhigham wrote: post #63
yalogin wrote: post #4

Looks like Apple hit home runs with all of their updates this cycle. Interestingly I haven't seen this universal praise for any other Apple update cycle before. Unfortunately I am not in the market for any device right now.

I would disagree that they hit homeruns on everything. The most obvious "single" would be the iPhone 5C which, by all accounts, is underselling expectations significantly. As a consumer, Apple "lost the game" by not introducing an iPhone with a larger screen size. Why are HTC and Samsung doing so well in the phone market? Because they offer what clearly millions of people want: a 5" screen. If Apple had introduced a…

  > Why are HTC and Samsung doing so well in the phone market? Because they
  > offer what clearly millions of people want: a 5" screen.
Not sure that's supported by the data. Do you have a specific reason for assuming that and not one of the countless other differences is the reason why people pick, say, an HTC or Samsung over an iPhone? (As in: preference for Android; availability; etc.)

Re: iPad Air Review

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Post by Tyrannosaurs »

blinkingled wrote: post #44
tedunangst wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they ship an ipad with 2GB, developers will start to use 2GB and then apps will run like crap on older models. Then people will complain about forced obsolescence. (Source: the dozens of comments I've read from people complaining their 512MB iOS device has been rendered useless.)

Something's gotta give - after sticking to 1GB on 4 generations users would hardly complain about the newer one having more RAM - that's just technological progress. Macs no longer have 2GB RAM for example. Secondly developers would be stupid to use more RAM just because they can - if their app only runs on the latest iPad, I'd say that would be a big issue.

Particularly when the iPad 2 is still a current model. I suspect that's the thing holding them back.

Re: iPad Air Review

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Post by uptown »

Groxx wrote: post #40
product50 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried/used the iPad Air? How can you pass a judgment on something based on reviews when the reviewer himself is asserting something opposite to you?

How can you pass judgement on anything you haven't experienced yourself?

"How can you pass judgement on anything you haven't experienced yourself?"

People do this all the time. Have you no opinions on rape, child abuse, or murder? I realize judging a physical device is different than moral, ethical and legal issues - but people will have varying levels of experience on almost everything in this world - and the person with the most experience isn't always the most-qualified to pass judgement.

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