How will Google determine which opinions to protect?
As wonderful as Project Shield sounds, there is a fundamental risk of it being undemocratic.
Project Shield
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Re: Project Shield
#62Seems like its just a straight up competitor to Cloudflare. There doesn't' appear to be any direct revenue gain from this, maybe this is more of a mafia protection kinda thing (as in protecting its interests, the websites hosting its ads). Does anyone know what it takes to mitigate DDoS, at this kind of scale?
> There doesn't' appear to be any direct revenue gain from this, maybe this is more of a mafia protection kinda thing (as in protecting its interests, the websites hosting its ads).
What? These websites are unlikely to be hosting their ads ("election sites" is one of the examples ffs). It's free while they're beta testing it with humanitarian/similar websites, it may be a driver for people to pay for the Page Speed service in the future when they roll it out to more people although they say they'd like to keep it free for non-profits.
All of which you'd know if you'd read the site rather than making ludicrous comparisons to the mafia.
Re: Project Shield
#63I started a thread where I was hoping to get a discussion of DDOS mitigation techniques, tools, and providers. Something that should be useful and highly relevant to web-based small business owners. It's here if anyone's interested -- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6587640
Re: Project Shield
#64How will Google determine which opinions to protect? As wonderful as Project Shield sounds, there is a fundamental risk of it being undemocratic.
Why won't it protect all sites regardless of content? Isn't that the point of free speech?
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#65How will Google determine which opinions to protect? As wonderful as Project Shield sounds, there is a fundamental risk of it being undemocratic.
Why won't it protect all sites regardless of content? Isn't that the point of free speech?
No, Google will decide what will be protected or the people that have the power to control Google in these regards.
Content that will certainly not be protected: - Content that violates the Digital Millennium Copyright Act
- Illegal pornography, snuff videos ...
- sedition,incitement
- confidential NSA stuff (you know, because it helps terrorist )
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
Please provide a source for your "fact" that Google "gave NSA direct access to their systems" As opposed to the multiple vehement denials of that "fact" from Google's executive officers (see David Drummond's interview in The Guardian, for example)
Here's a Snowden video in which he explains it (scroll to the bottom of the article): http://politiken.dk/udland/ECE2108923/usas-spioner-overvaage...
There's Snowden flapping his lips, yes. No argument there. The problem is he's wrong and has presented no compelling evidence at all.
The other problem is your worldview is not falsifiable. Everything Snowden says is true to you and everything Google says is false because Snowden said they would lie about it.
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#68Kind of a bad name choice with NVIDIA Shield being a popular topic in tech and gaming circles right now.
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#69On an unrelated note, I had never seen the withgoogle.com domain before and I did some searching and found all these other projects, initiatives, landing pages, and even online courses: - Chromebook mobile site: http://us.chromebook.withgoogle.com - Developer Bus: http://developerbus.withgoogle.com - Full Value of Mobile: http://www.fvm.withgoogle.com - Google Analytics Academy: https://analyticsacademy.withgoogle.co…
My guess is that everything on a .google.com domain requires loads of security testing. This let's them put up a marketing site with out tons of auditing.
Yeah that's absolutely correct. Google has more initiatives than they can produce internally and so a lot of work is contracted to external vendors/agencies, which can have security concerns. The withgoogle.com domain allows Google to host externally-created sites that do not have any access whatsoever to internal user data.
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#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yea, so when you give a restaurant server your credit card and they copy all the details off it to use later, it's a) your fault and b) not wrong anyway?
Copying the CC isn't the main issue, using it is.
Why do you need to copy it if you're never going to use it?