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Re: Center of the universe

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What do you mean when you say there's something wrong with all three?

Not sure how else to put it: There is too much of the killer in all three.

Trolling?

I mention hugely popular and well known websites to note an observation on how the Internet has and is reshaping human sexuality. First there were porn sites and live web cam models now whats popular is the average joe or jill jumping on web cam and broadcasting themselves. Which overall is a bit shocking to see, but that's what millions are doing and him pondering his sexuality prompted my thought/observation.

Also and pardon I didnt read the full article, as it was a bit long winded.

Re: Center of the universe

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Is that not allowed? People post their own articles and blog posts here all the time.

He means that out off all people, you would think the author of the article in question would know best what to title his submission.

Yup.

Re: Center of the universe

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Not sure how else to put it: There is too much of the killer in all three.

Well, the story is about an encounter with a serial killer, so of course there is too much of the killer in it. The comment you responded to is just trolling around, and getting downvoted for it. I still don't see what you mean, sorry.

The story is written as if it were fan fiction of the fan of the killer. Then there is a comment on it saying how "perfectly wonderful" and "absolutely magnificent" the story is. And then there's this guy, who isn't trolling(from a deleted comment I found out he didn't read the entire story), and inquires about the writer's same-sex relations after the encounter. As a bonus, there's also an article elsewhere "Why hasn't California executed Randy Kraft?", in which there's a comment which describes what the killer is doing, and urges people to write and send books to him. This all turns my stomach. It's morbid.

Re: Center of the universe

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In retrospect, I'm pretty convinced he was going to try to get me to undress myself at his escalating suggestion w/out him ever touching me. He was extremely careful about not touching, "accidentally" brushing, etc, and keeping out of my personal space. I realize now that this was a survival mechanism for him, as if the spell were broken by some wrong move, he really could have gotten hurt badly in this sort of situa…

Some people seem to have an almost super-human level of charisma/ability to influence others (there is probably a D&D reference to be made here). Certainly the trope is common in fiction. See: The Mentalist (both the protagonist and antagonist share this ability) and several Agatha Christie novels with similar storylines. This guy sounds like a real-life Red John; able to subtly re-wire people's thinking so that they…

> Some people seem to have an almost super-human level of charisma/ability to influence others

I think most people are completely unaware of how true this is. As students and tech geeks, we've all probably met someone whose talents seemed otherworldly -- mastery of Quantum math, able to punch out code like Notch, that sort of natural intellectual athleticism that seems like something they must have just been born with.

Well, in boardrooms and marketing departments, in politics, in places of power and sometimes just in random situations, there exist people for whom the ability to (at least seemingly) 'connect' with other people at a deep psychological level is similarly off the charts, in the vanishing 6-sigma rightward tail of the hump.

Of those few people, some percentage, say 1%, were additionally born without anything like a normal conscience. They are incapable of feeling guilt or the normal sort of empathy that makes one feel the suffering of another soul.

I believe that those are, for the most part, the people in charge of things.

Re: Center of the universe

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Oh oh! I remember this technique from Cialdini's Influence . During the Korean war, the Chinese used the same technique on American POWs: For instance, prisoners were frequently asked to make statements so mildly anti-American or pro-Communist as to seem inconsequential (“The United States is not perfect.” “In a Communist country, unemployment is not a problem.”). But once these minor requests were complied with, the…

This kind of incrementalism is pretty fundamental to all seduction. I mean, the story is obviously disturbing but if I'm being honest, I used the same principles in my single days. Being too direct is a huge turn off so artfully and gradually escalating the romantic and sexual undercurrents of an interaction is where much of seduction hinges. Tactful flattery and sincere interest are certainly helpful there and also need to be ramped up artfully.

I mean, hearing about a gay guy doing this creeps me out as a straight guy, but really a lot of this is going on in bars as we speak and is generally a mutually satisfying experience.

Re: Center of the universe

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Jesus, it just goes on and on and on... and in the end, there's no heroic manhunt, no great victory. He was caught driving drunk with a corpse in the passenger seat, so used to murder that he'd gotten lazy about it. You can't help but feel outrage that nobody stopped him... that the public wasn't sufficiently warned that any of these boys , these kids could have known there was a serial-killer stalking them.

Reading about Jeffrey Dahmer left me similarly shaken. One of his victims -- Konerak Sinthasomphone -- managed to escape out onto the street and contact some women who called the police. When the police officers (John Balcerzak and Joseph Gabrish) arrived, Dahmer managed to convince the them that it was a gay lovers' quarrel and the officers let Dahmer take Sinthasomphone home again. Can you imagine the horror of esc…

Holy shit. This victim, who 31 year old Dahmer claimed was his lover, was also 14 years old at the time, and the police returned him (naked and bleeding) despite his protests. (Sinthasomphone was disoriented at the time, having been drugged, but apparently still did protest.) At least the officer was fired: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Balcerzak
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