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Re: 1Password 4 for Mac is here

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I'm confused. "All Mac App Store customers get 1Password 4 for free. Yes, all of them." But when I go to the Mac App Store it says $39.99. What gives?

They are referring to AgileBits customers on the Mac App Store. So anyone who previously purchased 1Password on the Mac App Store. Apple doesn't offer upgrade pricing, so it would make sense that the upgrade is free. Most likely AgileBits calls that fact out due to past issues with the iOS App Store where they took down the old app and created a new one so they could charge an upgrade fee.

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AgileBits has relatively few options here- Their writeup is available at http://blog.agilebits.com/2013/08/08/1password-3-dropbox-syn... They claim that Dropbox deprecated their existing API, so the software broke on it's own. AgileBits did not disable the integration, upsteam changed. In the same way that Netscape 4 can't talk to SPDY-only websites, 1Password 3 can't talk to the new dropbox API. I haven't found the…

But the only reason they couldn't update 1Password 3 to the new API is because they pulled it from the store -- in order to force all users to upgrade for $18.

I see your point, and I don't necessarily disagree with you, but if updating 1password 3 to a new dropbox API requires a bunch of dev time, why should it be given out as a free upgrade?

I guess they could have sold yet another version of 1password 3 with the update for a lower fee, but that's confusing. At one point, with the upgrade from v2 to v3, agilebits had something like 4 or 5 versions of 1password in the app store (iphone/ipad/iphone & ipad combined version/v3) and while it offered better value, it was also confusing and off-putting for new customers.

I can't remember - does the iOS app store allow devs to charge for version upgrades? Or do you just have to create an all-new sku?

Re: 1Password 4 for Mac is here

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Maybe they can make a decent Android version one of these days. If they had a good Android version, I'd update to v4 for OSX in a heartbeat. I own an OSX license for v3, a Windows license for v3 (or whatever its at right now), and iOS licenses for iPad and iPhone - even though I don't have an iPhone or iPad anymore. I have a big investment in this program, but their slipshod Android version has me re-evaluating this…

Just to answer my own question, it looks like KeePass might be an option.

Re: 1Password 4 for Mac is here

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AgileBits has relatively few options here- Their writeup is available at http://blog.agilebits.com/2013/08/08/1password-3-dropbox-syn... They claim that Dropbox deprecated their existing API, so the software broke on it's own. AgileBits did not disable the integration, upsteam changed. In the same way that Netscape 4 can't talk to SPDY-only websites, 1Password 3 can't talk to the new dropbox API. I haven't found the…

But the only reason they couldn't update 1Password 3 to the new API is because they pulled it from the store -- in order to force all users to upgrade for $18.

Their thinking is made clear in this quote, they don't see the lifetime license as a viable business model.

"However, considering that we need to be able to feed our families, it is likely that 1Password 5 will be sold as a separate paid app, like we did for 1Password 4 in the iOS App Store. We just decided to make 1Password 4 for Mac an exception to this." http://discussions.agilebits.com/discussion/16268/what-shoul...

Re: 1Password 4 for Mac is here

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Ooh, the beautiful, lovely, shiny new "Security Audit" tab! It shows all of my re-used passwords, which passwords are weak (even "Terrible", as it not-so-subtly puts it), and which ones I haven't changed in years.

I've already added "perform 1Password security audit" to my monthly to-do list.

Re: 1Password 4 for Mac is here

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But the only reason they couldn't update 1Password 3 to the new API is because they pulled it from the store -- in order to force all users to upgrade for $18.

I see your point, and I don't necessarily disagree with you, but if updating 1password 3 to a new dropbox API requires a bunch of dev time, why should it be given out as a free upgrade? I guess they could have sold yet another version of 1password 3 with the update for a lower fee, but that's confusing. At one point, with the upgrade from v2 to v3, agilebits had something like 4 or 5 versions of 1password in the app…

The iOS app store doesn't allow charging for upgrades, they released as a new app.

Re: 1Password 4 for Mac is here

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Supported this company with the first version of 1Password. Then paid again for a family version of v3 last year, as well as the paid version for the iPhone which has been somewhat of a let down... now they want more money. All so I can store/use passwords.

I've spent less money on other apps that I actually spend more time using daily. Guess I'll start searching for some alternatives before they start dropping support for v3.

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But the only reason they couldn't update 1Password 3 to the new API is because they pulled it from the store -- in order to force all users to upgrade for $18.

I don't think they pulled it to force people to upgrade.. I suspect they pulled it because selling multiple versions would be confusing. It's clearer if there is one app per platform. Getting my wife to use a password manager is tough enough - Having to explain why there are 14 variations in the store would just add to the burden. But as to why it was a new version in the first place.. This is Apple's supported answe…

I think they do want the paid upgrade however I've gotten free updates to a great program since 2009. I have to agree that they have built an awesome tool that is incredibly easy to use.
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