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Sloppy UI – A collection of sloppy iOS7 UIs

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Re: Sloppy UI – A collection of sloppy iOS7 UIs

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Most things about iOS7 seem inconsistent, and like they were rushed - which they were. I mean Johny Ive was head of UI for like 9 months only, and had to change everything in iOS in that period. These changes should've arrived in iOS8 in order to be well thought out and mature enough, but for some reason they decided to push them to iOS7.

He didn't have to change anything. He wanted to. And when you see the iPhone 5C with iOS 7 it's pretty clear why.

I don't get it, why?

Re: Sloppy UI – A collection of sloppy iOS7 UIs

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So what - if I didn't visit the link, I wouldn't even know about these "sloppy" features. Done is better than perfect .

Funny, because I thought that the whole point of buying an Apple product is that even if you lose features and interoperability, it's incredibly well polished and thought out. Seems they're losing that attribute without gaining the others.

>Funny, because I thought that the whole point of buying an Apple product is that even if you lose features and interoperability, it's incredibly well polished and thought out.

Actually you only lose features you wouldn't want in the first place and would drag the whole thing down (less battery life, bulkier, etc). Not having FM radio for example is like not having a floppy disk drive an modern PCs.

As for "incredibly well polished and thought out" it still is. For one, there's much more to a mobile OS than graphic design. How it works and feels is much more important than how it looks ("design is how it works").

Second, most of those are some guy's pet peeves, not genuine problems. If he cannot understand why a red carret matches blue text, that doesn't make it into a genuine problem. Same if he didn't get the memo that drop shadows are used to add a depth to the UI layers and thinks they are stray leftovers.

Re: Sloppy UI – A collection of sloppy iOS7 UIs

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here's the thing though, If google would have released an UI as bad as this (just my oppinion as an iphone user) all the tech press and the hardcore apple fanboys would have trashed it online and offline for months. Who will be the role model from now on for "near perfection", "attention to detail"? Just look at this: http://tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/hon.jpg?... and tell me how you feel about it :)

> here's the thing though, If google would have released an UI as bad as this (just my oppinion as an iphone user) all the tech press and the hardcore apple fanboys would have trashed it online and offline for months. Google HAS produced a UI as bad as this. Actually worse. The Android UI, up until 4 was amateur hour. And still is not up there yet. It's just held in much less scrutiny compared to Apple, because nobod…

Apple is really defined by superior design. Google is defined generally by superior engineering. A better point to make would be if Google revamped their search engine and it was meaningfully degraded experience for search. They'd be criticized and rightly so as that's what they're supposed to do better than anyone else.

Re: Sloppy UI – A collection of sloppy iOS7 UIs

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post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

here's the thing though, If google would have released an UI as bad as this (just my oppinion as an iphone user) all the tech press and the hardcore apple fanboys would have trashed it online and offline for months. Who will be the role model from now on for "near perfection", "attention to detail"? Just look at this: http://tctechcrunch2011.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/hon.jpg?... and tell me how you feel about it :)

> here's the thing though, If google would have released an UI as bad as this (just my oppinion as an iphone user) all the tech press and the hardcore apple fanboys would have trashed it online and offline for months. Google HAS produced a UI as bad as this. Actually worse. The Android UI, up until 4 was amateur hour. And still is not up there yet. It's just held in much less scrutiny compared to Apple, because nobod…

I respectfully disagree with "And still is not up there yet."

Android 4.0+ has fantastic design, in my opinion.

Re: Sloppy UI – A collection of sloppy iOS7 UIs

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Although I'm a perfectionist and I believe a lot of these issues should be addressed, the tumblr itself bothers me. It's the logical culmination of Fail culture where hipsters in armchairs laugh at the inadequacy of everything while producing nothing. All these things could have been constructive criticism in another context, but here they just serve to further someone's twitchy compulsion to be entertained for anoth…

I think the visual explanation here offers credence to the criticism. This certainly isn't "hipster" culture - this is design critique.

The worse thing would be if people blindly said things like "iOS7 is just not intuitive" and went on to drink their PBR and evangelize about Phonebloks - instead, these are real examples of why iOS7 could be better.

At the very least, this thread is instructive for learning designers. I know as a younger programmer and designer, when someone said that "JavaScript has the weirdest quirks", it was useless unless someone showed me the quirks. Along came Douglas Crockford's Good Parts, which, while critical of the bad parts, was very instructive. I think this can function in similar ways.

It's not just "Fail" culture rearing its stupid head - the tone is far from embarrassing to Apple, and instead is generally descriptive of legitimate design failures.

Re: Sloppy UI – A collection of sloppy iOS7 UIs

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Although I'm a perfectionist and I believe a lot of these issues should be addressed, the tumblr itself bothers me. It's the logical culmination of Fail culture where hipsters in armchairs laugh at the inadequacy of everything while producing nothing. All these things could have been constructive criticism in another context, but here they just serve to further someone's twitchy compulsion to be entertained for anoth…

I think that it's more complicated than just criticism of a less than perfect UI. I think it's an expression of the Apple community's concern that without Steve Jobs, Apple will no longer be able to produce the highly polished products that the community has come to expect.

Re: Sloppy UI – A collection of sloppy iOS7 UIs

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My point exactly. We love all things Apple, and I want to see those fixed.

I've only been running iOS since it GM'ed ( which wasn't too long ago) but havn't seen some of the stuff shown there. iMessages certainly do that on my 4S. The notification badge on the Applications icon is always on top. I run into the battery low notification every day and it hasn't yet disagreed between values shown at the status versus the 20% and 10% thresholds you get these alerts from. Are these possibly from…

The battery notification looks identical to that in iOS6, and probably has the same behaviour.

If you run your phone with the display off, say from 21% battery down to 11%, then it will cross the 20% reporting threshold. The next time that you unlock the phone and activate the display, you will get the notification.

It's not inconsistent; nor is it just being "optimistic" -- it may be poorly worded, but it consistently displays that same message every time you unlock the phone after the battery drains to 20%.

If the person who took that screenshot had waited another ten minutes, then the battery would probably have reached 10%, and the 10% notification would have been shown instead.

Re: Sloppy UI – A collection of sloppy iOS7 UIs

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I agree that not all examples are good, but how can you defend the blue text/red caret? There are also quite a few genuine design errors (Z index of updates available, alignment in the timer, ...) on the site.

The blue text with red caret solves a real problem. It might appear odd in the context in which it appears, that is with the caret at the end of the line, but consider cases where the caret is between letters in a word. When editing a section of text where you are looking to make a mid-word modification, being able to quickly and easily identify the caret position is important. If the caret looks even remotely like a…

I would think flashing the caret is sufficient, but I may be biased by experience and good eyesight (for now). Given the number of people responding with how they used to lose the caret before, it seems that my experience is not universal.

Thanks for enlightening me.

Re: Sloppy UI – A collection of sloppy iOS7 UIs

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Not everyone can offer constructive feedback, but most people can have the problems brought to their attention and understand them. Even if you had constructive criticism, how exactly would you go about alerting a developer at Apple?

My point exactly. We love all things Apple, and I want to see those fixed.

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Re: Sloppy UI – A collection of sloppy iOS7 UIs

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Would they have preferred the metal and glass meets billiard room look of iOS6?

The major built-in apps in iOS 6 are just as 'boring' as the major OS X apps are. Safari, Music, Mail, Photos, Camera, Settings, Contacts, Messages - light grey chrome around content.

The average iOS 6 app did not look like Game Center or Find My Friends (which was not even built-in). But I guess that's how it will be remembered now. =/

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