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Re: That Time I Made A Website

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Post by goblinfoblin »

teddynsnoopy wrote: post #9
arpstick wrote: post #4

It's a nice site for a non programmer although the font hurts my eyes a bit. Her server host must be thrilled now that her site probably overloaded their box with requests.

Thanks for the feedback! I was having a bit of a debate with myself on whether or not I should keep the font, since the punctuation kind of bugs me, so I'll definitely look into that.

Remember that OSX makes fonts a lot thicker so this font looks insanely thin on other OSs. I'm on linux with ubuntu font rendering which is somewhat thicker than windows and it looks to thin to me.

Usually this means that it will look impossibly thin on Windows.

Raleway medium would look better, or you could look at some other fonts like Lato http://www.google.com/fonts/specimen/Lato

Re: That Time I Made A Website

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Post by tentacle »

aestra wrote: post #53
tentacle wrote: post #8

If this site was made by a male you wouldn't even see it on the front page of HN. (=ｘェｘ=)

Why do you guys pursume these posts get upvoted because they were written by women? Personally, I read and upvoted this post because it was well written, interesting, and was interesting to see through the eyes of a total beginner. The author's gender was not a factor in my vote nor my opinion of the blog post. I am a woman myself.

Well, I'm a woman, too. And I don't think it is that impressive to make it to the front page. There are tons of submissions like that... But it seems a post like this is only upvoted if the poster is either a woman or at least only 10 years old.

Re: That Time I Made A Website

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Post by philangist »

nicklovescode wrote: post #31
tentacle wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like what do you actually mean?

Maybe a public forum wasn't the best place for a comment meant specifically for the author. I'm the person who criticized the .

I know hacker news is going to kill me for asking this, but what's wrong with center?

Re: That Time I Made A Website

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Post by estel »

C1D wrote: post #56
jfarmer wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a few things worth responding to in your comment, some technical and non-technical, but both important for beginners to keep in mind. I assume you know most of what I'm going to say, so I'm pretending a student asked this. So, what's the problem with the tag? First, at the purely technical level, was deprecated in HTML4.01 and is not part of HTML5 at all. As far as I know browsers will still render it fine, b…

Wow. That was a very in depth explanation. Thank you. I'm currently working on a very HTML/JS heavy open source project and a co-developer had included some center and bold tags in the code. I will instead replace them with em/strong and inline:center; since I would not like our project to be judged by our absense of "best practice".

Going back to the semantic movement, strictly speaking em and strong should be used to encapsulate text with stress emphasis (when spoken) [0] and strong importance [1] respectively, and these properties would not necessarily be represented by italic and bold fonts (though, by default, they are).

A better choice for bold text that you don't think qualifies as "strong importance" would probably be the tag, which denotes a "span of text offset from its surrounding content without conveying any extra emphasis or importance".

[0] http://dev.w3.org/html5/markup/em.html [1] http://dev.w3.org/html5/markup/strong.html [2] http://dev.w3.org/html5/markup/b.html

Re: That Time I Made A Website

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Post by unreal37 »

smarx wrote: post #60
teddynsnoopy wrote: post #5

Hi everyone, sorry it went down for a few minutes. I was hosting it on Dropbox but turns out that's not a good idea for HN traffic, so I switched to using a copy of it. Thanks for reading :)

Might I interest you in Site44? (I'm a founder.) www.site44.com

If you're going to shill, at least you should offer her free hosting.

Re: That Time I Made A Website

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Post by [deleted] »

C1D wrote: post #56
jfarmer wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a few things worth responding to in your comment, some technical and non-technical, but both important for beginners to keep in mind. I assume you know most of what I'm going to say, so I'm pretending a student asked this. So, what's the problem with the tag? First, at the purely technical level, was deprecated in HTML4.01 and is not part of HTML5 at all. As far as I know browsers will still render it fine, b…

Wow. That was a very in depth explanation. Thank you. I'm currently working on a very HTML/JS heavy open source project and a co-developer had included some center and bold tags in the code. I will instead replace them with em/strong and inline:center; since I would not like our project to be judged by our absense of "best practice".

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Re: That Time I Made A Website

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Post by [deleted] »

bifrost wrote: post #50

> My first reaction was "WHO RIGHT CLICKED 'VIEW PAGE SOURCE'??? WHO DOES THAT???" People with too much time on their hands I guess. There's a phenomenon (that I subscribe to) that includes helping people by pointing out mistakes (since humans learn by making mistakes) but often not providing guidance. Not providing guidance forces the person who made the mistake, to think about it and then fix it in their own way. I…

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Re: That Time I Made A Website

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Post by aestra »

tentacle wrote: post #62
aestra wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you guys pursume these posts get upvoted because they were written by women? Personally, I read and upvoted this post because it was well written, interesting, and was interesting to see through the eyes of a total beginner. The author's gender was not a factor in my vote nor my opinion of the blog post. I am a woman myself.

Well, I'm a woman, too. And I don't think it is that impressive to make it to the front page. There are tons of submissions like that... But it seems a post like this is only upvoted if the poster is either a woman or at least only 10 years old.

Impressive? No. Interesting and well written? Yes.

Re: That Time I Made A Website

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Post by logn »

teddynsnoopy wrote: post #5

Hi everyone, sorry it went down for a few minutes. I was hosting it on Dropbox but turns out that's not a good idea for HN traffic, so I switched to using a copy of it. Thanks for reading :)

Your production support and quick action might be more impressive than anything else! Nice

Re: That Time I Made A Website

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Post by KirinDave »

mb_72 wrote: post #43
jmduke wrote: post #25

This is why I love programming -- and the programming community, warts and all. Tiffany's an Environmental Science major who had a month of free time so she decided to learn how to make web pages. That's the same way I started (albeit as an English major), and the cocktail of instant feedback and ease of discovery kept me as a happy addict of the command line ever since. To me, accessibility and approachability are t…

Well .... making a website != programming. Maybe it's because I'm old (41, starting programming on a TRS-80 in the early 80s), but I'm astonished sometimes at how much fuss is made over such relatively minor achievements. This is lowering the bar on what stories are 'interesting', and - honestly - turns me off coming to HN because of the (for me) lower signal : noise ratio. And I disagree that accessibility is so imp…

> making a website != programming.

I hear this a lot. While I would not call most basic work on websites very complex, I struggle to figure out why it's not programming.

You are writing a series of inline presentation commands mixed with content, not unlike how Knuth preferred to write (a technique he called literate programming and that frequently went double-meta when he'd embed TeX documentation for the Tex source code using TeX). This document structure can then be further augmented by directives in one of a few (common, many exist in the margins) ancillary languages, two of which have variables and loops, one of which is Turing complete.

Making websites is programming by any reasonable definition of the word. Usually the people I find saying it isn't then make arguments that are basically design to exclude anyone who hasn't been at it as long as they have. Usually, because they're a little insecure about the slow erosion of the barrier to entry to the field.

There are plenty of things in our modern world to get your jimmies rustled over, man. If you wanna take on a really scary-bad-idea issue in this sector look at how a very good embeddable Javascript engine is being misused for sub-par, poorly designed distributed systems programming.

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