Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

I am not a css hacker but please HN change your css. smartphone experience suck

pastie.org

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

61–70 of 102 posts

Re: I am not a css hacker but please HN change your css. smartphone experience suck

#61

Post by icefox »

homosaur wrote: post #52

I'm resigned to the fact this website will never improve at all.

Not only will they not make the website better they are incentivised to not make it better. With the current look/feel/behavior be it good or bad they have grown because of it. Any change they make is likely to make the number of users go down. And as much as the users care about quality the owners metric is always number of users so why change it if it is "working". I am on the watch for a new social tech news site that is optimized first for mobile to replace HN which I am 100% sure will be made and I will switch to at some point in the future.

Re: I am not a css hacker but please HN change your css. smartphone experience suck

#63

Post by topac »

icefox wrote: post #61
homosaur wrote: post #52

I'm resigned to the fact this website will never improve at all.

Not only will they not make the website better they are incentivised to not make it better. With the current look/feel/behavior be it good or bad they have grown because of it. Any change they make is likely to make the number of users go down. And as much as the users care about quality the owners metric is always number of users so why change it if it is "working". I am on the watch for a new social tech news site…

That's strange for hn because it's known that in a vast and rich sea such as the IT world, stability leads to a slow/fast failure or disappearing. They'll have to innovate, for their business and for the users.

Re: I am not a css hacker but please HN change your css. smartphone experience suck

#64

Post by hyperventilator »

JonnieCache wrote: post #15

I'm pretty sure at this point that HN's markup is the way it is out of sheer bloody-mindedness :)

Or pg is trying to slow the site down to delay Eternal September. Keeping it painful to use on mobile would seem to accomplish that.

Re: I am not a css hacker but please HN change your css. smartphone experience suck

#66

Post by harrytuttle »

dubcanada wrote: post #54
tunnuz wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same here :/ however typically stuff loads weirdly on Internet Explorer for Windows Phone (on WP7 at least).

It doesn't work for IE9. The author built it with HTML5 stuff, so sadly the IE9 WP7 won't work. But you should be used to that for mobile websites, people kinda just build for WebKit on mobile.

Webkit is the mobile IE6 if you ask me. Very narrow minded design and testing from the people who usually bitch about IE6.

Oh the irony.

Re: I am not a css hacker but please HN change your css. smartphone experience suck

#67

Post by Amadou »

topac wrote: post #63
icefox wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not only will they not make the website better they are incentivised to not make it better. With the current look/feel/behavior be it good or bad they have grown because of it. Any change they make is likely to make the number of users go down. And as much as the users care about quality the owners metric is always number of users so why change it if it is "working". I am on the watch for a new social tech news site…

That's strange for hn because it's known that in a vast and rich sea such as the IT world, stability leads to a slow/fast failure or disappearing. They'll have to innovate, for their business and for the users.

And yet the reverse is true too. Over-innovating which I see as almost universally putting form ahead of function kills web enterprises dead too.

I think craigslist is a great example of success going with the most minimal "innovation" - in the last ten years I can think of two changes there, and one wasn't even voluntary. First, the map-view for housing listings and second the giving up of sex services to other sites like backpage under threat from a bunch of point-scoring district attorneys.

Re: I am not a css hacker but please HN change your css. smartphone experience suck

#68

Post by ciucanu »

masklinn wrote: post #19
ciucanu wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me is cooler this way, because it offers visibility on app list and when I have a few free moments, I look at my phone apps and I say "Great, let's see what's new on HN" :D .

Your phone is not able to put page shortcuts on the homescreen or whatever?

That's not the point :D. It works better than a simple bookmark, with slide to change from page to comments, etc.

Re: I am not a css hacker but please HN change your css. smartphone experience suck

#69

Post by [deleted] »

icefox wrote: post #61
homosaur wrote: post #52

I'm resigned to the fact this website will never improve at all.

Not only will they not make the website better they are incentivised to not make it better. With the current look/feel/behavior be it good or bad they have grown because of it. Any change they make is likely to make the number of users go down. And as much as the users care about quality the owners metric is always number of users so why change it if it is "working". I am on the watch for a new social tech news site…

[deleted]

Re: I am not a css hacker but please HN change your css. smartphone experience suck

#70

Post by jcutrell »

icefox wrote: post #61
homosaur wrote: post #52

I'm resigned to the fact this website will never improve at all.

Not only will they not make the website better they are incentivised to not make it better. With the current look/feel/behavior be it good or bad they have grown because of it. Any change they make is likely to make the number of users go down. And as much as the users care about quality the owners metric is always number of users so why change it if it is "working". I am on the watch for a new social tech news site…

I disagree with this, for one reason alone.

Just because you have grown in the past with a certain tactic does not make that tactic the most effective choice. And, certainly, if the industry changes so much that mobile does indeed take over the personal device market, having a subpar experience on mobile phones could then have an effect that previously wasn't apparent.

"We make the best candles in all of the world!" didn't allow the candle company to compete with the lightbulb maker. (Albeit a less than accurate comparison, it illustrates my point I think.)

Post reply on HN