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Google Reader Apocalypse Extremely Fucking Nigh

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Re: Google Reader Apocalypse Extremely Fucking Nigh

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yuhong wrote: post #40
coolsunglasses wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You'll have to let me know how getting ignored in two different mediums feels. Protip? Getting people to talk to you is another form of sales. Also, don't ask questions in public for which the answers that could cause them to get blacklisted in their field of choice. That's a pretty good way not to get an answer. Rachel tends to be a drive-by participant in this community. Look at the comment/post history and the pro…

I was trying to figure out what went wrong at Google.

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Re: Google Reader Apocalypse Extremely Fucking Nigh

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Post by seldo »

aclevernickname wrote: post #59
seldo wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Almost nobody uses feed readers, which is why Google shut down Reader in the first place. You guys are a small but INCREDIBLY vocal minority.

what kind of geek doesn't have EZRSS and a few other torrent feeds fed into Sickbeard or FlexGet for automatic television/movie/game downloading?

I didn't say I don't use RSS; I just don't use it for news (or any kind of reading). I plumb it into automation quite often, though.

Re: Google Reader Apocalypse Extremely Fucking Nigh

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Post by tmzt »

snogglethorpe wrote: post #46

I don't really share most of jwz's specific complaints, but I've been trying to use feedly, and boy .... it's really hard to believe so many people are recommending this as a general Google reader replacement. Besides its somewhat quirky UI, the main problem I have with feedly is that it seems predicated on the assumption that you will more or less read through all articles, one by one, in order, and finish them. Tha…

It seems that Feedly's Cloud API may be the best replacement for the Reader backend (really an ATOM PUB feed source). It may not however turn out to be the best frontend for our use case. I would like to see if it is possible to rebuild the Reader UI/UX on top of the Feedly Cloud API, using an ATOM feedreader core implemented in javascript.

Personally, I want a centralized solution, not a standalone daemon running on a private server. I switched to reader from a Gnome feed reader after losing all of my subscriptions due to losing access to a home directory. From there (in 2004 I think) I've built a massive collection of diverse sources covering every position, philosophy, point of view, etc. I can. I have so many feeds that I cannot possible read all of them, and so many that the Feedly mobile UI on Android won't even display the entire list.

Feedly appears to have imported everything I want from Reader, including the tags that I have created over the years, and the folder structure. None of this appears to be in a simple OPML export. (But thanks Dave for standardizing that.)

I think everything is preserved in Feedly, and now that the pressure of Normandy is off I hope that they will work to address those people that brought them all of these new accounts, and all of the press surrounding this mass migration. The Reader theme is a start but doesn't go far enough.

Re: Google Reader Apocalypse Extremely Fucking Nigh

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Post by fpgeek »

tonetheman wrote: post #16

What is really missed is the larger picture. People who used/use Reader digest information. A lot of information and quickly (at least if you are using it correctly). They are often the hubs in social/meme networks. I find cool stories all the time and propagate those stories out. It is hard to value that, if there is value there at all. When the demise of Reader had been announced, bluntly feedly sucked. It looked l…

No maybe about it. You can't trust someone you're paying either. See:

- Sparrow and all the other companies who were acquired and saw products killed

- the countless other companies that just went out of business

- the problems you run into when hiring people to develop custom software

- and so on

There is no substitute for individually (and regularly) assessing the risks and benefits associated with all the software and services you use. And even then, you will make mistakes.

Re: Google Reader Apocalypse Extremely Fucking Nigh

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Post by epistasis »

philthesong wrote: post #9

I don't understand the hate with the decision of Google shutting down the Reader. Apparently, the Reader users aren't worth that much.

When Google makes the decision that I'm not worth much, I'm tempted to reciprocate.

DuckDuckGo is already becoming habit, and I'm pretty close to convincing others in my company that we need to switch off of Google Apps, because Google hides important messages from me and doesn't provide support [1]. What else does Google do? Drive? Dropbox is better. Plus? Haha. Google is putting all their effort behind things they're only mediocre at, chasing after the fashionable new kids on the block, and dropping the ball on their core competencies. Maps will keep me around for a while though. However, a maps app that cared about my privacy would win me over...

Every giant sees their peak and gradual decline. Google's just came very quickly. I hope they see a renaissance.

[1] http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/gmail/aU4UUye3...

Re: Google Reader Apocalypse Extremely Fucking Nigh

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Post by tmzt »

Yhippa wrote: post #60

I've tried just about all of them and as July 1 approaches I'm definitely getting anxious that I haven't found an RSS aggregator "home" just yet. I set up Tiny Tiny RSS on a Red Hat Openshift gear and it actually seems to work quite well. My main problem with it is that it doesn't seem to work in anything other than Safari. The mobile options for Tiny Tiny RSS looks like it's going to take some legwork to set up so t…

I would like to see an argument for not releasing the Google Reader Android app source code, I can't imagine what in there exposes a critical Google service. If that was the concern they could leave that component out. (I'm talking about the internal Android component that provides the Reader login facility and sync option.)

Re: Google Reader Apocalypse Extremely Fucking Nigh

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Post by anu_gupta »

snogglethorpe wrote: post #46

I don't really share most of jwz's specific complaints, but I've been trying to use feedly, and boy .... it's really hard to believe so many people are recommending this as a general Google reader replacement. Besides its somewhat quirky UI, the main problem I have with feedly is that it seems predicated on the assumption that you will more or less read through all articles, one by one, in order, and finish them. Tha…

The closest replacement is The Old Reader - unfortunately they seem to having problems with feed update speed (probably due to load)

Re: Google Reader Apocalypse Extremely Fucking Nigh

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Post by btilly »

aclevernickname wrote: post #59
seldo wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Almost nobody uses feed readers, which is why Google shut down Reader in the first place. You guys are a small but INCREDIBLY vocal minority.

what kind of geek doesn't have EZRSS and a few other torrent feeds fed into Sickbeard or FlexGet for automatic television/movie/game downloading?

Me.

I have never watched much TV, skip most movies, and am unable to play any first shooter from Doom onwards without getting motion sick. Plus I think that I should respect copyrights.

Let me turn it around. What true nerd would consider consumption of mass market media a defining characteristic of nerdom? As opposed to, say, burying your nose in a math text for fun?

Re: Google Reader Apocalypse Extremely Fucking Nigh

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Post by autarch »

seldo wrote: post #33

I appreciate his position but I have trouble taking advice on UI from somebody whose blog is eye-burning neon green text on a black background and has been since 1995. We know you're l33t, Jamie, you are a living legend. Can I get a readable color scheme already?

Add this to your bookmark bar - https://gist.github.com/autarch/5856172 - it's quite handy.
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