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Re: I Am Bradley Manning

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Think of it though, if I set a bomb somewhere and someone else tells you to walk over near it, that person bears some measure of responsibility as well, because they know the consequences that must result from a bomb detonation. If Manning is to take some of the credit for the Arab Spring then he must also bear some of the responsibility. You don't topple despots without bloodshed, so by all means take credit for you…

> so by all means take credit for your good deeds but don't try to weasel out of the negative effects you should also have known about. G.W. Bush likes to think the war in Iraq was mission accomplished, WMD dismantled, democracy restore to Iraq, a great success. When will he and the US government stop trying to weasel out and come clean on their stupid mistake of starting the war in the first place?

I don't know when G. W. Bush will, but even his own party relegated him to obscurity in the 2008 election, despite the fact that he was still the President at the time. To this day Iraq is an easy punching bag for politicians on both sides of the aisle.

In fact I read part of the HASC's proposed NDAA for FY-14 and despite being Republican-dominated the bill was full of warnings about applying the lessons learned from Iraq when deciding what to do, or not do, about the ongoing war in Syria.

It sounds to me like the U.S. government in all sectors is well-aware of how stupid that mistake was.

Re: I Am Bradley Manning

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1. I like how they attack the strawman with their "aiding the enemy" means "the public is the enemy?!?" claim. They were suspiciously quiet about the news OBL (presumably an enemy) had information leaked by Pfc. Manning. But I suppose propaganda techniques are only wrong when it's the government or McDonald's, eh? 2. Manning has explicitly been removed from death penalty consideration earlier in the trial process. Th…

3:Democracy is self-rule by the people. If it's forced from outside, it's not a Democracy. Besides, Democracy promotion wasn't even the original rationale for the war. That was "Saddam helped do 9/11". Then it was WMD. Only when those failed was Democracy promotion used as the final fallback rationale. I'm not saying that Iraq cannot possibly be a legitimate Democracy, but it hasn't yet had the moment of national con…

While we're (sort of but not really) on the subject of 9/11:

There's a very interesting video about 9/11 that every American really, really, really should watch put out by a group called Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth.

"9/11: Explosive Evidence - Experts Speak Out": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ddz2mw2vaEg

Re: I Am Bradley Manning

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you trolling? You think Manning was a witting planner of Arab Spring?

You may not be able to read it because it's faded, but I mentioned the reasoning earlier. You do not "inspire" pro-democracy uprisings without knowing full-well that people will die.

"inspiring" and "planning" are two completely different things. You can, quite easily, inspire something without knowing that you will inspire it quid pro quo demonstrandum.
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