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Snowden banned from flying to UK

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Re: Snowden banned from flying to UK

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Post by gaius »

tjmc wrote: post #19
kryten wrote: post #10

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At the moment, yes. His only other options are: 1. Get from the building to a diplomatically immune car and out of the EU. Not going to happen: the fuzz will snag him the moment he steps out of the door. 2. Wait for a politically sympathetic party is voted in and the extradition rules are changed. Not going to happen: people are too stupid to vote for anything other than "the big two" and if they did, they won't chan…

What about the old magicians trick where 100 people walk in, put on Guy Fawkes masks, then all leave at once in different directions?! I for one hope he gets to take a senate seat in Australia. Under the rules of parliamentary privilege you can say anything in the chamber without risk of prosecution. Imagine he'd have a bit to say...

I don't know what you're imagining the Ecuadorean embassy to be, but it's actually just a large-ish apartment in a normal apartment building. There aren't that many doors, probably only a front door and a fire escape. And from the photos, I don't think they're on the ground floor either, so they can't even tunnel out...

That's one of the reasons they want rid of him - they didn't have much space to start with.

Re: Snowden banned from flying to UK

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Post by kryten »

gaius wrote: post #59
aptwebapps wrote: post #15

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I'd add: 5. He finally gets stir crazy enough to attempt to sneak out and gets collared or just decides to take his chances in Sweden. 6. Ecuador gets sick of him and kicks him out (maybe after a change of leadership). And I think 5 is likelier than 3.

Swedish jails are actually very humane; the irony is he would have gotten more sunlight, fresh air, exercise and probably better food too, if he had just surrendered a year ago.

Until they extradite him to the US that is...

Re: Snowden banned from flying to UK

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Post by gaius »

kryten wrote: post #62
gaius wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Swedish jails are actually very humane; the irony is he would have gotten more sunlight, fresh air, exercise and probably better food too, if he had just surrendered a year ago.

Until they extradite him to the US that is...

Would be a breach of EU law if they did - as he was extradited from the UK, he has to be returned to the UK. And if the UK was going to extradite him, why would he be so keen on staying here?

Re: Snowden banned from flying to UK

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Post by mpyne »

jetti wrote: post #55
mpyne wrote: post #33

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Though I do agree with your main point, nothing happened to Assange until Sweden asked to have him extradited to complete the charging process.

Which is what the US is already doing with Snowden. It shows what the UK would already do with Snowden if he did go to the UK.

I'm a bit confused here, even Schneier said that Snowden undoubtedly broke the law, what did you think the U.S. was going to do, especially now that he is talking about leaking details of NSA hacking activities over to China? It's comparatively easy to grant a pardon after extradition for PRISM alone, he's making the rest more difficult.

Re: Snowden banned from flying to UK

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Post by aptwebapps »

gaius wrote: post #63
kryten wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Until they extradite him to the US that is...

Would be a breach of EU law if they did - as he was extradited from the UK, he has to be returned to the UK. And if the UK was going to extradite him, why would he be so keen on staying here?

As far as extradition goes, he's technically in Ecuador right now, not the UK. If he were, he'd be gone already ;)
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