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Re: Yandex Mail

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huhtenberg wrote: post #60
sologoub wrote: post #57

If you are that worried about FSB spying on you, make sure you are not running a Kaspersky product: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/07/ff_kaspersky/all/ But in all seriousness... it seems to be a rather unfortunate reality of using FREE email service, that the actual level of privacy afforded to you is minimal. Russia has a very stringent set of anti-extremism laws that curb free speech big time. If your content…

If you are that worried about NSA spying on you, make sure you are not running Windows. Because, you know, routine software updates is just what the doctor ordered for on-demand installation of backdoors.

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Post by pentheus »

At least they still have an RSS reader. It seems more like a valid replacement for most Google Reader alternatives that have passed around here before.

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Post by mtgx »

sologoub wrote: post #57

If you are that worried about FSB spying on you, make sure you are not running a Kaspersky product: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/07/ff_kaspersky/all/ But in all seriousness... it seems to be a rather unfortunate reality of using FREE email service, that the actual level of privacy afforded to you is minimal. Russia has a very stringent set of anti-extremism laws that curb free speech big time. If your content…

Because NSA cares about whether it's a free service or a paid one, or about the company's ad tracking technology?

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Post by ash »

tripzilch wrote: post #40
wcunning wrote: post #21

Slightly off-topic, but how do people here think Yandex search stacks up against Google? I mostly use DuckDuckGo at this point, but I like to have several alternatives and Google is not going to be one of them anymore.

It's pretty ok. It definitely crawls a different part of the web than G and DDG, so that's always refreshing. I used to like it because it still had a lean, plain HTML no-frills interface, but I see they've added some JS interactivity to it (not much, though). I thought they had an English version, but I can't find the link :) So all I'm seeing is Russian, which I cannot read.

> I thought they had an English version, but I can't find the link :)

http://www.yandex.com/

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Post by mtgx »

tptacek wrote: post #27
smnrchrds wrote: post #18

I actually think Yandex is a good alternative. Assume that all countries have similar projects like PRISM. Which one would you rather have: your country spying on you or a foreign country? If your country is spying on you, it can use the data it gathers against you in a court, etc. If it's a foreign country, what could they possibly do?

Technically, the FISA law being used by the NSA to capture phone records doesn't generate evidence that is easily used in court. If you're not a legitimate foreign target, you can suppress evidence that originates from FISA, and the NSA is obligated to destroy evidence it inadvertently collects on citizens.

In theory. In practice, they spy on you for a week, and then obtain a warrant because they have "probable cause", taken from all the spying.

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Post by espadrine »

gyardley wrote: post #39
smnrchrds wrote: post #18

I actually think Yandex is a good alternative. Assume that all countries have similar projects like PRISM. Which one would you rather have: your country spying on you or a foreign country? If your country is spying on you, it can use the data it gathers against you in a court, etc. If it's a foreign country, what could they possibly do?

Use the information against your own country and the people in it, which likely includes the people you're closest to? Since you're not a citizen of that country, use the information in your email in far less scrupulous ways? Perhaps they could blackmail you into being a foreign intelligence asset. Perhaps a corrupt employee could slip your information to a criminal organization who will then steal your identity. All…

> All of these things seem rather unlikely

More generally, anything that nobody has ever seen happen is unlikely.

I have heard of many occurrences of a government profiling, targeting or even suing their citizens over national security. I have never heard of anyone having their identity stolen by a criminal organization who got it from a foreign nation's government.

If you are in danger from a foreign government reading your email, you are an employee of your own government.

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Post by [deleted] »

smnrchrds wrote: post #18

I actually think Yandex is a good alternative. Assume that all countries have similar projects like PRISM. Which one would you rather have: your country spying on you or a foreign country? If your country is spying on you, it can use the data it gathers against you in a court, etc. If it's a foreign country, what could they possibly do?

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Re: Yandex Mail

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Post by tptacek »

djim wrote: post #56
tptacek wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you think the government is going to disappear you to Guantanamo, what's there to discuss at all? You clearly believe the government is bound by no laws at all.

Are you ok with the information that has come to light about our government collecting masses of data about US citizens under the guise of fighting terrorism? I think what is coming to light here is that the Government does whatever the fuck it wants and justifies those actions in any way they see fit. As a United States Citizen, I am NOT ok with this.

Interesting. I see a government largely doing what the people of the US voted them into office to do: allocating resources to pursuing organizations (or, really, if we're honest, entire ideologies) that "we" perceive as threats to our security; moreover, from what I can tell, they're doing it within the bounds of the law.

I feel the same way about NSA surveillance at this point, on Tuesday June 11, as I do about airport security: it's ineffective and offensive, but not the start of the decline of the Republic.

Re: Yandex Mail

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Post by tptacek »

api wrote: post #54

Actually you laugh, but being spied on by someone with no jurisdiction over you is better than being spied on by someone who can name you an enemy combatant because they misunderstand your e-mails that contain a plot synopsis for a book you're working on or that can label you a child pornographer because you have naked photos of your grandkids playing in your yard.

So that's happened when, in American history?
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