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Re: Dumped by Google

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post #10

Of course the author preformed daily backups to removable media and other cloud based services? Let this be a lesson. Data redundancy is important!

Please don't use the term "Data Redundancy" like this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_redundancy

We have a term for what you're describing already - Backups

Re: Dumped by Google

#62
post #24

People have been warned about relying on web services already: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/who-does-that-server-really-s...

Alright but then how do you safely store your important data? Imagine if the same thing happened with Dropbox (if you're using it).

I keep my data safe by storing it on hardware I control and never depending on cloud-service providers.

Re: Dumped by Google

#63
post #8

Definitely a reason I have always paid for Gmail/Drive before it was that. But the actual reason is quite scary why it triggered the issue: "My data was intact save for the last thing I’d worked on–a spreadsheet containing a client’s account numbers and passwords. It seems that Google’s engineers determined this single document violated policy and locked down my entire account. My request to get that document back is…

I'm more appalled that he's storing his client's account passwords in a spreadsheet. It's ridiculously easy to accidentally share the wrong doc with the wrong people.

What would be the best practice way to do this? Everyone could store a list in an unconnected way but it becomes an issue when passwords are changed and new entries are made to the list.

Re: Dumped by Google

#64

It seems strange that Google wouldn't have a policy of issuing warnings, escalating warnings, etc., before taking the drastic action of suspending an account. Without knowing the exact reason this person's account was suspended, for all we know it could be a complete glitch.

It's not strange, it's by design. They would do it if they wanted to.

If by strange you meant "bad", then I agree with you.

Re: Dumped by Google

#65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a tool to backup your google everything? If there isn't then what you're doing is called "taunting".

You can download some of your Google data using Google Takeout. It’s far from complete, but if you’re still using Google services, it doesn’t hurt to download a backup once in a while. The Data Liberation Front lists which services can be backed up, and how to do it: http://www.dataliberation.org/

FWIW I believe Takeout does work when your account has been disabled, so that you can transfer to another provider.

EDIT: Although sadly it looks like Gmail is not part of Takeout :/

Re: Dumped by Google

#66
The most interesting part was the reason he believes the account was suspended. He was working on a spreadsheet containing usernames and passwords. If that's really the case, it means some automated system scans not only your email, but documents you work on, for things like password lists, and right away assumes you're up to no good, killing your account. Scary.

Re: Dumped by Google

#67

I would really, sincerely, love to reply with my opinion on this, what seems by the title at least, wonderful article. But unfortunately people do not seem to have decent enough of a hosting provider and/or server to survive the outcome of getting on the front page of HN and hence I am forced to see "Error establishing a database connection".

Back in the old days before VPS, websites would autoscale leading to huge and unprecedented bills. For example, I hosted a website that contained download links. One day the Chinese found out and hot-linking causing my server bill to jump from $5.95 to over $200. I was 12 and this made me sad.

I believe I was not around then. I started when the shared hosting was a really popular thing with fixed bandwidth and even that could of easily survived HN. So, I'm kind of amazed on why some sites can't handle that in 2013.

Re: Dumped by Google

#68
post #8

Definitely a reason I have always paid for Gmail/Drive before it was that. But the actual reason is quite scary why it triggered the issue: "My data was intact save for the last thing I’d worked on–a spreadsheet containing a client’s account numbers and passwords. It seems that Google’s engineers determined this single document violated policy and locked down my entire account. My request to get that document back is…

I'm more appalled that he's storing his client's account passwords in a spreadsheet. It's ridiculously easy to accidentally share the wrong doc with the wrong people.

Isn't the deal with Google Docs that you can revoke that access a second after you realize you made the mistake? Unlike, say, sending the doc as an attachment?

Re: Dumped by Google

#69
If it was based on the content of a document in the Google Drive, it's probably an automated rule. Clearly such an automated rule is going above and beyond the minimum action by affecting the entire account rather than just the document in question. Given that characteristic, I wonder if it might also shutdown the account of anyone who the document is shared with. Could be quite dangerous if it does. Documents can be added into someone's Google Drive just by having them follow a link.

Re: Dumped by Google

#70
post #44
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Alright but then how do you safely store your important data? Imagine if the same thing happened with Dropbox (if you're using it).

If it happened with Dropbox, you would still have a local copy. Keep a backup on media you own. Or, at the very least, mirrored across different providers.

Until dropbox wipes their side and waits for you to sync...
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