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I found out that my case is more severe than you... But the comments here don't seem to come to any conclusion... Maybe I will find treatment as well..
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Can we quit perpetuating this idea that prescription stimulant meds are "basically just meth"? Different molecules, different delivery systems, different dosages, different therapeutic goals (euphoria not being one of them).
but adderall is meth
I recommend that you avoid thinking of yourself as having some kind of disease. The term "mental illness" is a sneaky and ill-defined term meant to put mental behaviors on a par with physical ailments. But in fact, all mental behaviors are adaptations to specific environments, and some are more effective than others (some aren't effective at all). To refute this, one would have to start by identifying someone who die…
I recommend that you avoid thinking of yourself as having some kind of disease. The term "mental illness" is a sneaky and ill-defined term meant to put mental behaviors on a par with physical ailments. But in fact, all mental behaviors are adaptations to specific environments, and some are more effective than others (some aren't effective at all). To refute this, one would have to start by identifying someone who die…
If you want to take this stance, you need to be criticizing psychiatry (and a psychiatrist actually is a medical doctor).
When I talk to psychologists, they invariably say the problem is with psychiatrists. When I talk to psychiatrists, they invariably say the problem is with psychologists. But if human psychology were a science, this lame dodge would not exist, because both psychology and psychiatry would be united by a single theoretical framework, like the one that unites cosmology and particle physics (i.e. the Standard Model).
Particle physicists attend cosmology conferences, and cosmologists attend particle physics conferences, for the reason that both fields have the same theoretical framework and because discoveries in either field affect the other. And because physics is a science.
Psychiatrists don't attend clinical psychology conferences, and clinical psychologists don't attend psychiatry conferences, for the reason that there is no theoretical framework that unites psychiatry and psychology, and that, in turn, is because psychology is not a science.
> (and a psychiatrist actually is a medical doctor)
Yes, but a psychiatrist's medical degree is in general medicine, not psychiatry. There is no mental doctor, there are only physical doctors. The existence of a medical degree program in advance of psychiatric training is just a way to confer an unearned status to psychiatry.
When you call a psychiatrist "doctor", you are acknowledging his medical training, not his psychiatric training. If psychiatry were a science, of course, this would all be different.
Any questions?
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If you want to take this stance, you need to be criticizing psychiatry (and a psychiatrist actually is a medical doctor).
> If you want to take this stance, you need to be criticizing psychiatry ... When I talk to psychologists, they invariably say the problem is with psychiatrists. When I talk to psychiatrists, they invariably say the problem is with psychologists. But if human psychology were a science, this lame dodge would not exist, because both psychology and psychiatry would be united by a single theoretical framework, like the o…
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> If you want to take this stance, you need to be criticizing psychiatry ... When I talk to psychologists, they invariably say the problem is with psychiatrists. When I talk to psychiatrists, they invariably say the problem is with psychologists. But if human psychology were a science, this lame dodge would not exist, because both psychology and psychiatry would be united by a single theoretical framework, like the o…
I suppose the first one would be how many actual conversations inform your first paragraph?
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I suppose the first one would be how many actual conversations inform your first paragraph?
Hundreds, over decades. Reference: http://arachnoid.com/building_science
Anyway, if you are going to take the hard line that those fields aren't doing people any good, you might as well make it clear that you are lumping them together (take the hard line meaning loudly advocate for that position on comment boards and such).
Whether you actually have it or not, I think it's great that you are noticing these traits of yours. Now you can start looking for solutions! Find ways to motivate yourself (HN community is great), get organized, and if still needed then find the right medicine that fits with the rest of your life.