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If we are going to blame "reddit" and "the internet", are we also blaming "the media" for the cnn false report and the nypost cover photo? I have a hard time finding the collective responsibility of "the internet" materially different from "the media".
Citation required. This is gaining truth through repeated assertion, but people looking for actual verification seem to be coming up short (one person could recall hearing this general police chatter including the word "Sammy", which apparently was enough, proving out what a confirmation bias is). Remember when there were broad claims of "confirmation" that the FBI were looking for the same individuals that had been widely, and mistakenly, identified? Only that wasn't actually true.
The danger of large crowds working loosely together is that not every participant has good intentions, and not every participant is mentally balanced. In the absence of legitimate information, someone maliciously dropping false information bombs in the middle of a well meaning conversation can dramatically mislead the herd.
Sunil Tripathi (or his parents) would do well to take legal action against Reddit for facilitating this garbage, if the final legal reports support the assessment that Sunil was not involved.
I'm honestly surprised to see this opinion on HN, the defender of the free Internet. Should the family also take legal action against the ISPs of the Reddit users involved, simply for "facilitating" this garbage?
Any organisation, be a website, news organization, or Government, should be punished if it tolerates a Kangaroo court culture. Else we risk exposing just about any innocent person (us and our families included) to permanent damage.
To some extent, those that are summarily decrying the "actions of reddit" are judging with the benefit of hindsight. Here's my take: I believe the people who participated in those threads on reddit/4chan/etc. we're actually, truly, trying to help. (I'm not one of them, but I watched much of this unfold). Some folks spent hours pouring over any publicly-available images they could find to see if anything stuck out. Th…
The decrying and predictions of Bad Things Happening have been happening since before this whole Boston thing started, predicting exactly this outcome. It's part of the reason why Reddit's admins have a policy against "doxing". I like to call that "experience" rather than "hindsight".
I find it funny when people talk about reddit, 4chan, etc as a single group. "Reddit should really not do this". Really? It's like saying Brooklyn should really stop being so hipster. Not only is it a very small portion of the entire group, but they aren't about to stop doing what they're doing because of a few articles.
To be fair though, 90% of reddit is the "reddit hivemind".
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I'm honestly surprised to see this opinion on HN, the defender of the free Internet. Should the family also take legal action against the ISPs of the Reddit users involved, simply for "facilitating" this garbage?
I was wrong in my opinion. If legal reports show Tripathi wasn't involved, the family should take legal action against the Reddit users who participated in this garbage, AND Reddit itself. The former for libel, and the latter for having failed to apply effective moderation. Freedom of speech is very important, but this was a public lynching. Granted that it is difficult for a website to moderate each and every thing,…
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Yes, this seems to be the nature of communities both online and offline. A community becomes known for something like hipsters in Brooklyn, cat memes in Reddit, or motherhood paraphernalia in Pinterest. More people of the demographic with the same mindset join and stay, whereas everyone else feel unwelcome and gradually leave.
I left Reddit a while back because I felt this way. I'm a conservative and on that site it's like being a social pariah. I'd rather just keep my thoughts to myself from now on.
The few times I've been in a political discussion on HN (which is admittedly rare), it's been a crap shoot between a reasonable but clearly left-of-center discussion and "conservatives are the most evil thing imaginable and they clearly lack any intellect."
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I was wrong in my opinion. If legal reports show Tripathi wasn't involved, the family should take legal action against the Reddit users who participated in this garbage, AND Reddit itself. The former for libel, and the latter for having failed to apply effective moderation. Freedom of speech is very important, but this was a public lynching. Granted that it is difficult for a website to moderate each and every thing,…
So by your same logic then we should expect large file hosts such as Dropbox and MegaUpload to take active moderation measures to ensure that they are not used as springboards for minor crimes... such as copyright infringement?
Really? Someone in the news media pointing fingers at others for reporting bad information?
Yes? And the criticism is somehow invalid? Now, with CNN's fuckups as of late, I could see getting livid about them specifically pointing fingers. While I hate mainstream media organs, I'm perfectly fine with anyone taking on mob justice. Even hypocrites.