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Re: Trojita: an IMAP mail client

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Post by vy8vWJlco » Fri, Apr 12, 2013, 3:35 PM UTC

pyre wrote: post #60

vy8vWJlco wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps you might clarify your reference. Based on my understanding, RMS is describing the difficulty addressing machine-compatibility between different implementations of a supposedly-similar interface/protocol/specification. The name of a wholly new application doesn't have similar obligations. A person might think about the implications of the name socially, but is still ultimately free to ignore them. Even RMS no…

Maybe POSIXLY_CORRECT was probably a bad example as it's not necessarily a heavily used option. On the other hand, no one is crying 'censorship' (or stifling of artistic creativity) because RMS didn't name it POSIX_ME_HARDER. | It's open source, so someone could fork it | with a new identity. We've seen this happen before (e.g. OpenOffice/LibreOffice, Jenkins/Hudson). Just because it's an option doesn't mean that peo…

And yet, noone's forked the GIMP just to change it's name. ("A rose by any other name would smell as sweet"...) Those other examples of forks you gave are also examples where a quorum of the major contributors chose a different path; whereas, in this case, the major contributors chose the name.

Re: Trojita: an IMAP mail client

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Post by mellamoyo » Fri, Apr 12, 2013, 3:47 PM UTC

pyre wrote: post #43

ghostDancer wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried Claws mail? : http://www.claws-mail.org/ It has support for gpg (inline and mime) and is multiplatform, maybe you have done and you don't like it

Last time I tried Claws mail (which was years ago) the interface left something to be desired. It was too cluttered, and difficult to use on a small (1024x768) screen.

+1 I've had the same experience.

Re: Trojita: an IMAP mail client

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Post by hnriot » Fri, Apr 12, 2013, 4:30 PM UTC

I took a quick look and still prefer Thunderbird. Over the years tb has matured enough that it's solid and reliable. All I want from my work email client. For personal stuff, I'd never consider a client, other than the browser.

Re: Trojita: an IMAP mail client

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Post by Tobu » Fri, Apr 12, 2013, 4:41 PM UTC

moondowner wrote: post #2

How does it handle Gmail (labels, conversations..) ?

It's fast, but not conversations based; there's no threading at all that I can see, except a "replied" icon that isn't even an active link. It's a shame because conversations (unlike labels) don't require any protocol extension, thunderbird conversations work on any server.

Re: Trojita: an IMAP mail client

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Post by Tobu » Fri, Apr 12, 2013, 4:47 PM UTC

dragansah wrote: post #16

I hope it stands out it's promisses. My Gmail account is not usable on any gnu/linux IMAP client.

It does stay responsive while scanning a large (200k) [Gmail]/All mail folder, but apparently it has a single connection to Gmail because no other folders or messages can be obtained during the download. After about five minutes it has a basic list of headers (but not the subjects) and there seems to be more concurrency. It would be better if it chunked the large scan and allowed other operations to complete (assuming progressive scanning is possible).

Re: Trojita: an IMAP mail client

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Post by aidenn0 » Fri, Apr 12, 2013, 4:53 PM UTC

hnriot wrote: post #63

I took a quick look and still prefer Thunderbird. Over the years tb has matured enough that it's solid and reliable. All I want from my work email client. For personal stuff, I'd never consider a client, other than the browser.

In the past decade or so (basically since it came out) I've tried Thunderbird 3 times. Each time it lost some of my data. Granted only the first 2 times was I using POP; with IMAP having an e-mail client that completely corrupts and is unable to recover the local mailbox isn't nearly as big a deal, but it still makes me not want to use it.

Even Evolution, which had a history of crashing if I looked at it funny, and seemed to be implemented as a loosely associated group of processes, any one of which could decide to monopolize the CPU and/or disk IO at any point never lost e-mail messages for me.

Re: Trojita: an IMAP mail client

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Post by jff » Fri, Apr 12, 2013, 5:01 PM UTC

welterde wrote: post #59

themckman wrote: post #33

Off topic: Can anyone recommend a good command-line mail client. I'm used mutt quite a bit. Wondering if there are any more out there that are at least as good as mutt.

offlineimap+notmuch+alot is an quite nice combination.

I like notmuch with the Emacs notmuch client, because it'll work fine when I only have a terminal available, but when I run Emacs+X11, it'll also display images inline and has some decent mouse support.

Re: Trojita: an IMAP mail client

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Post by __david__ » Fri, Apr 12, 2013, 5:21 PM UTC

jeltz wrote: post #8

Good IMAP clients is something I always look out for. Be they command line, web based, or GUI clients. Most of the ones I have tried have had performance problems so I like they have it as one of their core goals. Anyone know of any other good IMAP clients?

Mulberry [1] used to be my gold standard of IMAP clients. It has one of the most complete IMAP implementations I've ever seen. Unfortunately the company that made it went out of business in 2005, but a little while later it came back and then was open sourced.

There doesn't seem to be a lot of activity on the open source project and I eventually switched to Thunderbird (which only gets better, it seems). But I do miss many parts of Mulberry. It was stable, fast, and detailed.

[1] http://www.mulberrymail.com/

Re: Trojita: an IMAP mail client

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Post by BCM43 » Fri, Apr 12, 2013, 5:22 PM UTC

mellamoyo wrote: post #4

I don't see GPG/PGP integration. I have been looking for a lightweight, multi-platform offline capable IMAP client with good GPG/PGP encryption for awhile now, and nothing seems to quite fit the bill.

If you use emacs, notmuch and offlineimap are great. Very strong gpg integration.

http://notmuchmail.org/

Re: Trojita: an IMAP mail client

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Post by __david__ » Fri, Apr 12, 2013, 5:25 PM UTC

aidenn0 wrote: post #66

hnriot wrote: post #63

I took a quick look and still prefer Thunderbird. Over the years tb has matured enough that it's solid and reliable. All I want from my work email client. For personal stuff, I'd never consider a client, other than the browser.

In the past decade or so (basically since it came out) I've tried Thunderbird 3 times. Each time it lost some of my data. Granted only the first 2 times was I using POP; with IMAP having an e-mail client that completely corrupts and is unable to recover the local mailbox isn't nearly as big a deal, but it still makes me not want to use it. Even Evolution, which had a history of crashing if I looked at it funny, and s…

Interesting. I've been using Thunderbird for years and years and have never had it lose any data... What IMAP server are you using?