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Re: Ask HN: What should I do?

#61

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Yes, London. I was at £45k after two years, and permie salaries are in general higher now than than they were three years ago.

Hi, I saw some rates in Lodon for my experience(around £60k for >6 years for permanent positions). Are these rates before or after taxes ? I'm asking because it varies from country to country. Thanks Andrei

In the UK, salary figures are always gross (pun not intended).

Re: Ask HN: What should I do?

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1) Yes, you are vastly underpaid. (Unless it's 3 years with FrontPage Pro!) 2) Apply for big companies / public sector. They have massive HR departments who will send you an equal opportunities form. Disclose your disability and ask for support during the interview. That should help them prepare for you - they will also have the budget to support you if you do get the job and require extra help. 3) Build a portfolio.…

Definitely speak to your GP and explain that it is having an effect on your career. You can talk to a speech therapist that may be able to help.

A lot of people are put off by "therapy" but it is worth going to an initial meeting with the therapist and finding out what the plan would be. If you decide that ongoing meetings is not for you then they may be able to give you a few exercises to do at home.

edit: http://www.stammering.org/adults_info.html

Here is some information. You do not necessarily need to speak first to a GP

Re: Ask HN: What should I do?

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£42k after 3 years? Where are you working - London? That makes rather a large difference, as I'd be shocked if someone was getting that after 3 years for web dev here in Manchester.

For the record, I hired on behalf of a corporate in London and would routinely hire graduates for a starting salary between £30k and £40k. We only hired people who had shipped something (anything!), and we paid more if they'd shipped something that looked more full-stack. But yes, in London... people start North of £30k if they're able to demonstrate that they've shipped something.

Posts like this makes me wish I was born in a first-world country. I'd be lucky to be earning half of what this guy's making.

Re: Ask HN: What should I do?

#64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, London. I was at £45k after two years, and permie salaries are in general higher now than than they were three years ago.

Hi, I saw some rates in Lodon for my experience(around £60k for >6 years for permanent positions). Are these rates before or after taxes ? I'm asking because it varies from country to country. Thanks Andrei

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Re: Ask HN: What should I do?

#65
Yay! Another stuttering dev here on HN! I have a stammer too (stutter here in the US); you're not alone!

I'll bet that code tests in interviews really suck. I know that they suck for me.

I think alot of it is going to depend on interviewing with the right person. Keep trying, and eventually you'll find them. Also, if that doesn't work, you can always try to pick up totally remote freelance work, but if you're looking for full-time, you should be able to find it.

One thing that may really help is getting an introduction from a friend (or a recruiter) to any companies you're interviewing for. I got one job with a conversation that went like this:

My friend: "Well, I have someone for you, but he has a pretty bad stutter"

Employer: "As long as he's smart and can get the job done, I don't care if he talks backwards!"

And I got the job.

Real employers (who aren't skeezy and exploitative like your current ones) don't care how you talk, they just want someone who can get the job done. And those are the people you should be working for.

In some ways, you can think of the above as a positive selection filter. Imagine all the non-stuttering schmucks who are out there working for skeezy employers who care more about how people talk than who can get the job done (and imagine how shitty the management must be if their hiring is not based on people's skills).

In closing, I know this turned into kind of a rant without any really good advice, but I just wanted to give a solidarity shout out to another stuttering dev here on HN.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to drive-by down vote all the commenters who are like "herp derp why don't you just stop stammering"

Re: Ask HN: What should I do?

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Dreadful BO OR murdering kittens would seriously be a deal breaker. If I can't stand sitting near you or looking at you we're gonna have a bad time.

Steve Jobs apparently had horrid BO (not sure about his affinity for cat murder).

And pretty much never interviewed anywhere.

Re: Ask HN: What should I do?

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When you greet your interviewer, hand them this card: |=================================| | | | Hi, I'm John Doe and I'm happy | | to meet you. | | | | I have a stammer, but we should | | not let that interfere with our | | conversation. | | | | I'm an excellent web developer | | and I love what I do. My speech | | impediment does not affect my | | work. | | | | What can I do for you? | | | |=========================…

Not gonna work for initial phone interviews....

This sounds simple, but the key is to avoid phone interviews. I'm terrible on the phone as well, and when I was looking for my last job I thought about this a lot. Looking back, I had received a job offer about 90% of the time when I had a face to face interview, but for phone interviews it was more like 10%. With that in mind, I focused on getting in person interviews the last time and found that even if someone asks for a phone interview, often you can ask/convince them to do a in-person. This might mean you have to travel on your own (or maybe they'll pay for it), but by knowing your previous rate of success you can focus on getting the job you want.

Re: Ask HN: What should I do?

#68

Yay! Another stuttering dev here on HN! I have a stammer too (stutter here in the US); you're not alone! I'll bet that code tests in interviews really suck. I know that they suck for me. I think alot of it is going to depend on interviewing with the right person. Keep trying, and eventually you'll find them. Also, if that doesn't work, you can always try to pick up totally remote freelance work, but if you're looking…

Also, here is a great blog on stuttering:

http://thestutteringbrain.blogspot.com/

Re: Ask HN: What should I do?

#69
Hello,

1) Get great at what you do. Nothing helps to open doors like a great portfolio and great track record of success.

2) Maximize the things you can do non-verbally. You are lucky that you are in the Web Dev industry and are not something like a car salesman which would require a lot more verbal communication. For example: * Write articles for websites such as Smashing Magazine. * Contribute to open source projects on Github. * Start a mailing list offering great web development knowledge and tips. * Start a web development blog.

3) Get really good at writing. If you don't speak well, make sure you write well. Your emails should always be professional and well written.

4) Freelance remotely. Through Email/GTalk/Skype Chat/Asana/Basecamphq you can communicate with clients non-verbally. Client will always want to touch base by phone at some point, but these great tools will greatly help reduce the amount of time you need to speak on the phone.

5) Work on improving your stammer. Invest in a Speech Therapist. This could be a life-long process but if your stammer is getting in the way of your career it is worth practicing on improving it every day. Don't ignore it, work at it like you are training for the Olympics. If your job can't give you a raise, perhaps they can pay for a Speech Therapist.

6) Finally, remember you are not alone. Everyone has disabilities and your situation is not unlike people who are very shy or who have social anxiety and who try and avoid face to face conversations. Find similar people to yourself and share tips and advise and help each other.

Good luck my friend!

Re: Ask HN: What should I do?

#70
Understand that your technical abilities are a small part of why people actually hire you. If they feel they're going to have a hard time communicating with you, or that you're not a good personality fit -- the hard truth is most people will pass.

Here is my advice: See a good speech therapist. If your stammer is triggered by your emotional state, see a good counselor. Take a communications class. Start interviewing like crazy (just to get comfortable with the process itself).

I'm giving this advice out of my own experience. All of these things have improved myself and my spouse's life immensely. You'll feel more confident and have certain tricks and tips up your sleeve to help you nail interviews.

You've got a lot of life ahead of you. Don't live it out of fear.

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