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Re: Sorry Google; you can Keep it to yourself

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Post by smithzvk »

niggler wrote: post #28
yanw wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then they'll build one now.

It's almost too late to do that. Products that were slowly grinding are now seeing much more traction, and the initial exodus has passed. There may be a second one when it is officially stopped, but it would be difficult to compete with those products that grabbed customers already.

There will definitely be a second exodus. People such as myself are waiting to see what "wins out" over the next few months. I'm still adding feeds to my Reader account.

Re: Sorry Google; you can Keep it to yourself

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Post by narcissus »

marssaxman wrote: post #45
fakeer wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You realise there were feed services that went kaput because of Reader[1] and one fine day Google decided to give it an injection. Is it really that difficult to see this happening to sth like Evernote or Simplenote? I mean seeing Google's reach it's very much possible. And as Malik has raised the question in his post - what's in it for Google? No one seems to know this. They might just be testing one of their APIs b…

What is "sth"? Services? Software?

It's "something".

Re: Sorry Google; you can Keep it to yourself

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Post by agilord »

yanw wrote: post #31
niggler wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's almost too late to do that. Products that were slowly grinding are now seeing much more traction, and the initial exodus has passed. There may be a second one when it is officially stopped, but it would be difficult to compete with those products that grabbed customers already.

Problem solved then. Other feed readers exist, so what's your point?!

There are other webmail providers, search engines and social networks too. What's your point?

Re: Sorry Google; you can Keep it to yourself

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Post by fakeer »

magicalist wrote: post #40
fakeer wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You realise there were feed services that went kaput because of Reader[1] and one fine day Google decided to give it an injection. Is it really that difficult to see this happening to sth like Evernote or Simplenote? I mean seeing Google's reach it's very much possible. And as Malik has raised the question in his post - what's in it for Google? No one seems to know this. They might just be testing one of their APIs b…

> You realise there were feed services that went kaput because of Reader People keep saying something like this without providing real examples. I can believe Reader's existence might have depressed the market for new feed readers (though there have long been competitors around--lots of open source and built in ones, and a few for-pay ones too, like Feedly), but I haven't been able to personally think of any feed rea…

>>I may just have forgotten them, though (2005 was a long time ago).

Yeah, good point :-)

There was Bloglines. It is still there, only difference being - it's a ghost town now.

There used to be FeedDemon's own sync and now FeedDemon is jumping into the pyre with Reader.

It's been long and I am out of example. Maybe others will bring some.

But thing in this way - "because when the company launched Google Reader in 2005, its free price tag undercut and then virtually destroyed the market for competitive products."[1]

Thing this way - what about an startup that wants to enter hosted mail(web mail too) and they won't because of GMail. The same can be said about IM(for personal use; not those dev chat apps), Forum(Groups?), blah. And Google has good reason to kill them too.

[1]http://www.loopinsight.com/2013/03/19/this-is-what-pisses-me...

Re: Sorry Google; you can Keep it to yourself

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Post by jcampbell1 »

yanw wrote: post #44

This is ridiculous. How hard is it to import an OPML file into any of the other feed services that already exist on the web, or those popping up everyday. Do we really need to keep regurgitating this story?! it's been dominating the front page for a week now. Here are the differences between Reader and Keep: Reader was an abandoned and an unclaimed product, kept on life support. Keep is a feature of Drive, a product…

Google served a giant turd sandwich to a bunch of journalists by closing Reader. Now Google is eating the shit it created. Google is going to continue eating shit until they grovel.

Unfortunately for Google, no one is responsible for closing Reader, thus no one will step up to the plate and fix this PR disaster.

There is a clear path to fix this mess, and I guarantee no one at Google has the humility to fix the problem.

Re: Sorry Google; you can Keep it to yourself

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Post by ktsmith »

smithzvk wrote: post #61
niggler wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's almost too late to do that. Products that were slowly grinding are now seeing much more traction, and the initial exodus has passed. There may be a second one when it is officially stopped, but it would be difficult to compete with those products that grabbed customers already.

There will definitely be a second exodus. People such as myself are waiting to see what "wins out" over the next few months. I'm still adding feeds to my Reader account.

I'm still using reader because I don't care for feedly working as an extension to my browser and the news blur interface doesn't appeal to me. I'm waiting to see if something else pops up that offers the syncing feature of reader with a decent web app.

Re: Sorry Google; you can Keep it to yourself

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Post by mkr-hn »

creativityland wrote: post #34
dudus wrote: post #12

Google Reader had an easy and clear migration path to export your data. I can't understand why people keep bashing Google for it. Just take your data to somewhere else. If tomorrow Keep goes away they'll do the same.

We should all start using Google Plus more. Still don't understand why people won't make the switch.

There's not much to do on there. I see image memes that aren't interesting. I scroll down to find a "What's hot" box with some boring thing from the NRA. Why does Google think I want to see anything from the NRA?

The rest is news and updates I already saw on Facebook, Twitter, and RSS feeds. This is with a few carefully curated circles. I culled a few people out for flooding me with uninteresting things, but G+ hasn't removed their posts from the stream. The rest are people who either don't post at all or don't post often.

Re: Sorry Google; you can Keep it to yourself

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Post by anonfunction »

curiousfiddler wrote: post #55

If at this point Google reinstates Reader, I can tell you they will win many hearts and goodwill. I don't remember a product being brought back from grave and if they were to do it, they will be viewed as a genuinely considerate company (IMO).

I wouldn't hold your breath.
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