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Stack Overflow ranks #2 for Google Search for "Stack Overflow"

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Re: Stack Overflow ranks #2 for Google Search for "Stack Overflow"

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And here's why: http://stackoverflow.com/a/5411601/620239 . Forgot to change that first occurrence after pasting it in. "Oh, it works. I'm done."

It has been edited. Here are the past revisions: http://stackoverflow.com/posts/5411601/revisions

I'm actually glad it's been edited. There's an RFC for this, people!!

Re: Stack Overflow ranks #2 for Google Search for "Stack Overflow"

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post #34

Looks like it's a cut/paste error. If you do wget www.doioig.gov, this is the page you get. Notice the meta refresh that points to stackoverflow.com. window.location.href = "http://www.doi.gov/oig/index.cfm" Page Redirection If you are not redirected automatically, please click the link to continue to the U.S. Department of the Interior Office of Inspector General.

I bet there's some sort of logic on google's side that states, if a government homepage url redirects to another non .gov URL, that the .gov address should be the canonical page of the site thats being redirected too. Which would explain why stackoveflow's homepage isn't listed in the results. Just a guess.

I could imagine the ranking favours .gov domains, which should be reliable. But surely for anything Google sees as a redirect, the redirect target should be the canonical URL?

Re: Stack Overflow ranks #2 for Google Search for "Stack Overflow"

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Conversation from three days ago at http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/169405/google-indexi... suggests that the best hypothesis is that at some point in the past, www.doioig.gov was compromised and maybe redirected to StackOverflow. (This hypothesis is supported by a Google cache of doioig.gov showing the message "Due to security concerns, our website will be unavailable until transition to the Department of th…

(Actually the explanation at http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5311430 looks a lot better. I do wonder what's up with the DoI's recent "security concerns").

Re: Stack Overflow ranks #2 for Google Search for "Stack Overflow"

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post #52

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Because it describes what a stack overflow is, rather than being a site named after the thing? That would be my thinking. Ok so maybe wikipedia doesn't have to be the top result, but I'd rather have results relating to the thing I'm searching for come above sites just named after it.

Maybe people are actually searching for the site, and not the thing that named it?

You'll notice that people search for facebook not "face book" when they go there.

Re: Stack Overflow ranks #2 for Google Search for "Stack Overflow"

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post #22
post #13

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People actually use Bing?

Yes. And DuckDuckGo. And Google. Why give all your searches to one search engine and one company? Depending on what you're searching for, Google doesn't always provide the best results.

Google almost universally provides the best results if you are actually searching for something.

Compare the results for queries like "that movie where a computer plays tic tac toe" A very reasonable search if you forget what the name of War Games is, but bing fails it utterly and completely; not a single mention of War Games until the second results page, and the wikipedia page for it doesn't appear until the third. Meanwhile on google the first results page barely has anything that isn't about War Games.

Now, if you just search "War Games" both will do fine. For that matter, so does Wikipedia's builtin search...

You can push it even further and get more vague, something like "that car that james may goes fast in" and while at that point google starts to degrade, it still easily beats out bing.

Suppose I am looking for "that movie with a button". Yup, google get's it, "The Box". Bing thinks I am thinking of Benjamin Button, which was google's second suggestion (I wasn't). Fair enough though, suppose I actually had been thinking about "that movie where the guy get's younger". Both google and bing don't do great, though google still definitively does better.

Re: Stack Overflow ranks #2 for Google Search for "Stack Overflow"

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post #52

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That's pretty subjective. Why would that be the "best" link?

Because it describes what a stack overflow is, rather than being a site named after the thing? That would be my thinking. Ok so maybe wikipedia doesn't have to be the top result, but I'd rather have results relating to the thing I'm searching for come above sites just named after it.

I am willing to bet the City of London against a house-brick that the vast majority of people searching for 'ford' are not looking for a definition of the river crossing, but rather the motor vehicle company named after the man named after several other generations of men named after such a river crossing.

Re: Stack Overflow ranks #2 for Google Search for "Stack Overflow"

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post #31

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I'm surprised http://example.com is reserved by IANA.

...why is that surprising?

Because it makes sense. These sorts of things normal are allowed to go through so that horrible unintended consequences can be wrought on the unsuspecting.
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