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Re: 3UK treats political satire as porn and blocks it

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Post by madaxe »

DanBC2 wrote: post #60
madaxe wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course, when they first started censoring CP, plenty went, "Well, yes, it's abhorrent, but what about the slippery slope?", and got shouted down by our government, the press, and peers, who all said words to the effect of "Don't be ridiculous, you're hysterical, what are you, a pedophile?". Even now, as we gracelessly tumble down the well-greased-incline, they will merrily argue that there is no slippery slope. As…

You know these filters are optional, right? Comparing these to the filters for images of child sexual abuse is bizarre - they're operated in very different ways.

Censorship is censorship.

Re: 3UK treats political satire as porn and blocks it

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Post by belorn »

DanBC2 wrote: post #60
madaxe wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course, when they first started censoring CP, plenty went, "Well, yes, it's abhorrent, but what about the slippery slope?", and got shouted down by our government, the press, and peers, who all said words to the effect of "Don't be ridiculous, you're hysterical, what are you, a pedophile?". Even now, as we gracelessly tumble down the well-greased-incline, they will merrily argue that there is no slippery slope. As…

You know these filters are optional, right? Comparing these to the filters for images of child sexual abuse is bizarre - they're operated in very different ways.

Are filters for images of child sexual abuse written into law? It is a industry standard in Europe, but I never heard that UK actually made a law to force ISPs to use it.

as for the linked content-code, it is true that its is not a industry regulation but a rather a industry practice code written by large ISP themselves.

Re: 3UK treats political satire as porn and blocks it

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Post by UnoriginalGuy »

amirmc wrote: post #54
bruceboughton wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

None of their current plans appear to offer tethering. Are you on a grandfather-ed plan?

"Tethering is permitted on £10 goodybag and will work on all smartphones with an inbuilt tethering feature, except for the iPhone." [1]. Not sure what the deal is with iPhone (I'm on their £12 option). All the other plans expressly say "Tethering is not permitted ..." [1] http://giffgaff.com/goodybags/10pound-goodybag

I believe they cannot allow tethering with the iPhone since the iPhone its self doesn't allow tethering unless Apple unlocks it.

So they might need to pay Apple some £££ to get the ability to simply unlock tethering for GiffGaff's users.

I suspect that an jail-broken iPhone could tether on GiffGaff just fine.

Re: 3UK treats political satire as porn and blocks it

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Post by rahoulb »

dan1234 wrote: post #58

Is this block only for PAYG users? There doesn't seem to be any block on my 3UK Pay Monthly deal.

Sort of - you need to prove your ID to them (and contracts include that ID). But I was using a 3 contract broadband SIM in my phone and that wouldn't let me access stuff on the phone's browser.

Re: 3UK treats political satire as porn and blocks it

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Post by ZeroGravitas »

dan1234 wrote: post #48
gambiting wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love it, I've been with them for 2 years now. And their unlimited plan is really unlimited. In one month(during the summer) I downloaded 18GB of data, and nobody complained. I rarely call people,so 200 minutes per month is more than enough, and unlimited texts are good as well. When I was buying my phone, I realized how much money I could save going with them. I could either go with a 24 month contract for 35 pound…

It's also worth pointing out that they don't charge you for 0800 numbers (free phone numbers, which (I think) every other mobile operator does charge for and exclude from any monthly allowance).

Apparently you can use the Skype app for free calls to 0800 numbers.

Re: 3UK treats political satire as porn and blocks it

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Post by jrabone »

amirmc wrote: post #44
jrabone wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is. They will collect your personal information, and make it available to their parent (Telefonica, via O2) and one of the other subsidiaries set up specifically to do this, and then re-sell it to the highest bidder. See http://www.fastcompany.com/3002010/telefonica-sell-customer-... for example. If you then subsequently leave them for another network, you will get more SMS spam than you can possibly imagine. http…

This is about O2 so it's not specific to GiffGaff, it happens to O2 customers who also pay much more for service than on GiffGaff. Hence it doesn't really address the "too good to be true" comment about GiffGaff in the GP.

It's actually about Telefonica SA and everything they own, downwards. They're all considered harmful in my book.

Re: 3UK treats political satire as porn and blocks it

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Post by jrabone »

thedrbrian wrote: post #39
jrabone wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is. They will collect your personal information, and make it available to their parent (Telefonica, via O2) and one of the other subsidiaries set up specifically to do this, and then re-sell it to the highest bidder. See http://www.fastcompany.com/3002010/telefonica-sell-customer-... for example. If you then subsequently leave them for another network, you will get more SMS spam than you can possibly imagine. http…

Interesting. Thankfully I signed up with one of my disposable gmail accounts. Another problem with giffgaff/O2 is that they compress and artefact every video or large picture one tries to send over their network. They claim its to save you money/bandwidth/data , which is funny as I'm on an unlimited account.

Note I said SMS spam (whereas the linked article talks about email as well). I assert that if you port your number out of a mobile provider owned by Telefonica SA, you'll find every PPI ambulance chaser in the country suddenly has that number regardless of your TPS preferences.

Re: 3UK treats political satire as porn and blocks it

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Post by EliRivers »

Nursie wrote: post #57
gambiting wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well they are amazing though, so I see no reason at all to leave them. Simply nobody else in the UK offers a deal as good as theirs.

They're a no-tether operator aren't they? I don't often tether but I do like the ability to do it.

To quote amirmc:

"Tethering is permitted on £10 goodybag and will work on all smartphones with an inbuilt tethering feature, except for the iPhone." [1].

Not sure what the deal is with iPhone (I'm on their £12 option). All the other plans expressly say "Tethering is not permitted ..."

[1] http://giffgaff.com/goodybags/10pound-goodybag

Re: 3UK treats political satire as porn and blocks it

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Post by gambiting »

Nursie wrote: post #57
gambiting wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well they are amazing though, so I see no reason at all to leave them. Simply nobody else in the UK offers a deal as good as theirs.

They're a no-tether operator aren't they? I don't often tether but I do like the ability to do it.

You can tether even with their 12 pound unlimited package. I had to do it a few times, it was only for half an hour or so,but nothing happened. People on their forums are saying,that it's basically a rule of thumb - if it's occasional and you are not downloading hundreds of MB of data, it's going to be fine. But start using your phone to torrent stuff,and they will probably limit your speed or cut you off.

Re: 3UK treats political satire as porn and blocks it

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Post by gambiting »

amirmc wrote: post #54
bruceboughton wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

None of their current plans appear to offer tethering. Are you on a grandfather-ed plan?

"Tethering is permitted on £10 goodybag and will work on all smartphones with an inbuilt tethering feature, except for the iPhone." [1]. Not sure what the deal is with iPhone (I'm on their £12 option). All the other plans expressly say "Tethering is not permitted ..." [1] http://giffgaff.com/goodybags/10pound-goodybag

You can tether even with their 12 pound unlimited package. I had to do it a few times, it was only for half an hour or so,but nothing happened. People on their forums are saying,that it's basically a rule of thumb - if it's occasional and you are not downloading hundreds of MB of data, it's going to be fine. But start using your phone to torrent stuff,and they will probably limit your speed or cut you off.
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