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The Criminal Charges Against Aaron Swartz – Part 2: Prosecutorial Discretion

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Re: The Criminal Charges Against Aaron Swartz – Part 2: Prosecutorial Discretion

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Swartz had something else in mind it seems; just taking the law into his own hands I think this is really one of the core reasons so many hackers disagree with this lawyer mindset. A hacker or an entrepreneur is someone who breaks rules to create something. Innovation and consensus are antonyms, not synonyms. Innovation does not happen by committee. If you wait for a "democratic process" that is bought and rigged by…

A hacker or an entrepreneur is someone who breaks rules to create something.

That definition really begs the question [1]. A simple counter-example: Google didn't break any rules when it launched a search engine built on pagerank rather than conventional indexing. They broke convention.

Talk about 'breaking the rules' sounds great at motivational seminars or in marketing speak, but metaphors don't make for credible legal or policy arguments. We give up a degree of individual autonomy in such matters and do things by consensus instead because historically this has proved preferable to resolving disagreements by force - as the Declaration of independence has it, people institute governments to secure their rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, as opposed to Hobbes' vision of anarchy as 'a war of all against all.'

1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question

Re: The Criminal Charges Against Aaron Swartz – Part 2: Prosecutorial Discretion

#62
I love this George Bernard Shaw quote:

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man."

Orin Kerr strikes me as a very reasonable man. There are lots of reasonable men. They're all going to stand around and argue about how many legal angels can dance on how many pins.

Meanwhile, unreasonable men are plotting on how to make progress. Aaron Swartz struck me as a particularly unreasonable man. He made lots of progress until he ran into these artificial roadblocks.

Laws are there to benefit society, not as a brake on progress or as a way to protect outdated business models against the greater common good, especially when it comes to such things as access to knowledge.

Re: The Criminal Charges Against Aaron Swartz – Part 2: Prosecutorial Discretion

#63
post #9

Swartz had something else in mind it seems; just taking the law into his own hands I think this is really one of the core reasons so many hackers disagree with this lawyer mindset. A hacker or an entrepreneur is someone who breaks rules to create something. Innovation and consensus are antonyms, not synonyms. Innovation does not happen by committee. If you wait for a "democratic process" that is bought and rigged by…

"As for the fetishization of 'democracy' in Kerr's post, sometimes elections produce good outcomes. But often the wisdom of crowds isn't so wise" Well, yes, but that's why we do the whole voting thing again after a period of time, rather than just once. Democracy isn't a means to ensure bad decisions won't get made, it's a means to ensure they can be un-made. "Many times, perhaps most times, the crowd votes after som…

Not everybody that engages in civil disobedience does 'the minimum', sometimes civil disobedience at the minimum level will be ignored and ineffective.

The Rosa Parks story is interesting because she did something that was clearly good in the eyes of many but against the law anyway and that was 'bad' in the eyes of only a slight majority at the time.

That same thing can be said of Aaron Swartz, there are many people that feel the same way, that locking up knowledge behind paywalls is both immoral and that it impedes progress, but a majority can't be found to take on the business interests that control the flow of knowledge.

Unlike with Al Capone, we're not talking about flooding the streets with an intoxicating liquid, we're talking about to something that should be a basic human right here: the right to educate yourself through accessing our communal pool of knowledge. If there is one interesting thing about our current form of democracy it is that people routinely vote on a few narrow issues and get a whole pile of non-related items pushed at them going directly against the interests of that same majority.

Sometimes you have to do more than just sit on the wrong chair for a while to make a noticeable difference. Lots of people have been doing the equivalent of that for a long time now without much progress being made. I guess for Aaron that speed of progress just wasn't enough.

And just like Al Capone he wasn't charged with spreading the knowledge, he was charged with the computer crime equivalent of tax evasion, the breaking of some terms of service and evading some very basic bans on an otherwise terribly insecure network where everybody had access to that knowledge.

The internet doesn't care about censorship it is said, it will route around it. But someone will still have to program those routers and that where people like Aaron come in, they observe and identify bottle-necks, then proceed to fix them. If your gravy train ride depends on holding bits hostage and dribbling them out to the public at a rate or in a way that you can control then you really should go and read Nick Negroponte's 'being digital' again.

It's been said that I don't like JSTOR. I have no feelings positive or negative towards them, just like I have no such feelings towards dinosaurs. They're going to go away one of these days because their useful lifespan is almost at an end, disrupted by the combined cheap costs of storage and communication.

Re: The Criminal Charges Against Aaron Swartz – Part 2: Prosecutorial Discretion

#64
post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, there is no reasonable interpretation of the facts of this case under which Swartz did not understand that there were people attempting to block his access to the MIT network and JSTOR.

... really? Has he been communicating with these people? Or was he just observing connections being dropped, which could be automated response?

When a computer says "No," a hacker figures out a way to make the computer say "Yes," perhaps unaware that the computer said "No" because a person told it to.

Re: The Criminal Charges Against Aaron Swartz – Part 2: Prosecutorial Discretion

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post #14
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Swartz had something else in mind it seems; just taking the law into his own hands I think this is really one of the core reasons so many hackers disagree with this lawyer mindset. A hacker or an entrepreneur is someone who breaks rules to create something. Innovation and consensus are antonyms, not synonyms. Innovation does not happen by committee. If you wait for a "democratic process" that is bought and rigged by…

aaron's mindset really is different from kerr's, and kerr's thinks his is "better" (i'm not really sure which side to take on this point). but regardless of that point, how should we expect the law to respond to someone like aaron? should we expect that people who intentionally break laws and practice civil disobedience not be punished? if so, why bother even having laws?

The purpose of laws is to provide a framework for the easy cases. The hard cases should be judged by their intent and their outcome.

The vast majority of the order you see in the world around you isn't because of laws, but because of a mutual interest in cooperation.

Re: The Criminal Charges Against Aaron Swartz – Part 2: Prosecutorial Discretion

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"I think that some kind of criminal punishment was appropriate in this case. Swartz had announced his commitment to violating the law as a moral imperative in order to effectively nullify existing federal laws on access to information."

This seems to be the going mistake. I can understand if someone has the opinion that the case should be tried in court or even that the charges were correct. But stating that someone should be punished based on their previous statements is dangerously close to political repression.

Re: The Criminal Charges Against Aaron Swartz – Part 2: Prosecutorial Discretion

#67
post #9

Swartz had something else in mind it seems; just taking the law into his own hands I think this is really one of the core reasons so many hackers disagree with this lawyer mindset. A hacker or an entrepreneur is someone who breaks rules to create something. Innovation and consensus are antonyms, not synonyms. Innovation does not happen by committee. If you wait for a "democratic process" that is bought and rigged by…

"As for the fetishization of 'democracy' in Kerr's post, sometimes elections produce good outcomes. But often the wisdom of crowds isn't so wise" Well, yes, but that's why we do the whole voting thing again after a period of time, rather than just once. Democracy isn't a means to ensure bad decisions won't get made, it's a means to ensure they can be un-made. "Many times, perhaps most times, the crowd votes after som…

False dichotomy: he's neither the Capone nor Rosa Parks. He clearly did not do it to benefit himself directly as Capone did.

Now let's assume for a second that booze is just as important as scientific research. He would be equivalent to an anti-prohibition activist that ran a boat to Canada to pick up booze, but only charged for costs of operating the boat and the purchase price of the booze (operating at no profit), and never drank any himself.

He would not want to get caught for two reasons: he would not be able to provide the booze to those who need it and it would interfere with his plans to run as an anti-prohibition candidate which he can't with a felony on his record.

Utility is discrete rather than linear here: the cost of going "clean record" to "petty felon" is greater than going from "petty felon" to "petty felon with another conviction" (non-violent felonies are usually not subject to three-strike laws).

So here's what I would find a fit punishment:

* Monetary retribution to MIT and investigating agencies (as well as JSTOR if they so choose). Capped as to be reasonable.

* Misdemeanor conviction subject to being expunged if his record stays clear.

* No jail sentence, but perhaps community service that involved tutoring jail inmates (it would give him a realistic view of what jail is like).

* Some form of supervised parole with the condition that doing what he did again would mean jail and a felony charges.

* No restrictions whatsoever on his speech, but he should he prohibited about talking of his exact punishment/settlement (so that it's imagined to be more harsh than it really is).

Overall, maintain high incentives for him to not break the law again and to instead use other means to change it.

That does have one problem, however: it does not deter others from doing the same. Yet, as far as I understand, there aren't that many people seeking to do what Aaron did: the intersection between "people willing to torrent copyrighted material that they gleaned by breaking captchas with a script" and "people strongly supportive of open access with no profit motive" consisted of Aaron.

What he did was rare and unusual, so punishingly him harshly would do little to reduce crime -- there's no one else to deter.

Re: The Criminal Charges Against Aaron Swartz – Part 2: Prosecutorial Discretion

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post #9

Swartz had something else in mind it seems; just taking the law into his own hands I think this is really one of the core reasons so many hackers disagree with this lawyer mindset. A hacker or an entrepreneur is someone who breaks rules to create something. Innovation and consensus are antonyms, not synonyms. Innovation does not happen by committee. If you wait for a "democratic process" that is bought and rigged by…

In some cases just fixing things may look like rule-breaking. Imagine, you need to download a file from a server, but your wireless connection keeps dropping. You don't really know why. Maybe some problem on the network, or improperly configured web server. You don't know. What would you do? Would you go, and start soliciting network administrators, or contact web server administrators? Probably no, right? You'll jus…

Anybody that does any kind of high volume crawling knows about rate limiting and knows that evading those rate limiting blocks is circumvention. Having a door slammed in your face then going around to find another door indicates that you know that door was closed because of you.

Re: The Criminal Charges Against Aaron Swartz – Part 2: Prosecutorial Discretion

#69
post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"As for the fetishization of 'democracy' in Kerr's post, sometimes elections produce good outcomes. But often the wisdom of crowds isn't so wise" Well, yes, but that's why we do the whole voting thing again after a period of time, rather than just once. Democracy isn't a means to ensure bad decisions won't get made, it's a means to ensure they can be un-made. "Many times, perhaps most times, the crowd votes after som…

False dichotomy: he's neither the Capone nor Rosa Parks. He clearly did not do it to benefit himself directly as Capone did. Now let's assume for a second that booze is just as important as scientific research. He would be equivalent to an anti-prohibition activist that ran a boat to Canada to pick up booze, but only charged for costs of operating the boat and the purchase price of the booze (operating at no profit),…

> there's no one to deter.

We'll see about that.

Re: The Criminal Charges Against Aaron Swartz – Part 2: Prosecutorial Discretion

#70
post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

False dichotomy: he's neither the Capone nor Rosa Parks. He clearly did not do it to benefit himself directly as Capone did. Now let's assume for a second that booze is just as important as scientific research. He would be equivalent to an anti-prohibition activist that ran a boat to Canada to pick up booze, but only charged for costs of operating the boat and the purchase price of the booze (operating at no profit),…

> there's no one to deter. We'll see about that.

Okay, was. Indeed, thanks to the prosecutor's actions that has been greatly changed.
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