Is there value to people constantly self-diagnosing themselves or seeking clinical diagnoses for neurodivergency? I don't mean this in a disparaging way; but surely constantly seeking to remind both yourself and society of your neurodivergency and any shortcomings you have with that seems almost like a crab bucket mentality that you are enveloping yourself with. I don't have a problem with people looking inwards, but…
I got more things done in one week on ADHD meds than in the three months before that. And the only reason I went out to get a diagnosis was an ADHD meme community that constantly made me go "haha, that is so me". If I got diagnosed 10 or 20 years earlier, I wouldn't have dropped out of university and my life would have been profoundly different and better.
Tragically, as many as 9625 out of every 10k individuals may be neurotypical
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Re: Tragically, as many as 9625 out of every 10k individuals may be neurotypical
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It's not a health problem though. Neurodivergency (christ I hate that word) is far more prevalent than you'd expect, particularly ASD and ADHD, some 20% of the population. These traits have self selected for a reason, and any issues encountered are a fault of modern society not the individual imo.
> These traits have self selected for a reason, and any issues encountered are a fault of modern society not the individual imo. I mean, quite apart from the fact that you can be so profoundly autistic that you are vulnerable and cognitively limited, and so profoundly ADHD that you are incapable of keeping yourself safe. I am as yet formally undiagnosed ADHD; it is obvious, so obvious to me that either I am in later…
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> These traits have self selected for a reason, and any issues encountered are a fault of modern society not the individual imo. I mean, quite apart from the fact that you can be so profoundly autistic that you are vulnerable and cognitively limited, and so profoundly ADHD that you are incapable of keeping yourself safe. I am as yet formally undiagnosed ADHD; it is obvious, so obvious to me that either I am in later…
Do you not think that if your life consisted of chasing a gazelle once or twice a week you'd be suited to it? Evolutionary timelines are long.
There is no upside to what I experience.
The genes for ADHD and autism survive because their consequences do not kill all their bearers before they get a chance to breed.
The appalling thing for me is that I have spent my life telling myself there are upsides; I have now reached an age and a set of life experiences where it is very clear there never were.
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See also "Am I German or Autistic?", which despite the cheeky title, does a pretty good job showing the balance between cultural and mindset patterns and autism spectrum traits. https://german.millermanschool.com
Disappointing - it seems I'm neither German or Autistic, but normal, and yet my experience suggests otherwise
Re: Tragically, as many as 9625 out of every 10k individuals may be neurotypical
#65The neurodivergent label was always incredibly stupid though. It's an entire movement trying to make it sound that having a pathological condition is fashionable. Something like a super quirky, human difference, as opposed to a health problem. Even though the condition is defined in the context of reduced functioning in society. OPs site is a good example of that flawed line of thinking. The bigger issue is that the…
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How so? Why? What drove this comment? Zero karma account; did you create it just to shit on this person?
Re: Tragically, as many as 9625 out of every 10k individuals may be neurotypical
#67I sometimes wonder if there are other possible neurodivergence, I'm not neurotypical, but I'm also not autistic (at least according to the criteria I've seen), just a bit odd or quirky doesn't seem to be enough.
I don't display the obvious traits, like stimming.
And then there's autistic burn out, where you can't concentrate on things anymore.
I found the Austistamatic YouTube channel quite helpful fwiw.
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#68I'm torn on whether I like this parody. It is quite funny and IMO in good taste (which is hard to do when diagnosing 9,625 out of every 10,000 as deficient). It probably works well as an in-joke for people who prefer critical thinking to social proof. But it isn't really appropriate to fight fire with fire when it comes to calling people disordered and the people who need to hear the message won't understand it becau…
Re: Tragically, as many as 9625 out of every 10k individuals may be neurotypical
#69I'm torn on whether I like this parody. It is quite funny and IMO in good taste (which is hard to do when diagnosing 9,625 out of every 10,000 as deficient). It probably works well as an in-joke for people who prefer critical thinking to social proof. But it isn't really appropriate to fight fire with fire when it comes to calling people disordered and the people who need to hear the message won't understand it becau…
> t probably works well as an in-joke for people who prefer critical thinking to social proof. Autistic and neuroatypical are not better critical thinkers. Fairly often they just ... dont understand certain things. And wont accept clear straightforward plain language explanation of what others want, because in their heads they should not.
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Disappointing - it seems I'm neither German or Autistic, but normal, and yet my experience suggests otherwise
High level masking may be involved. "Non-autistic people don't spend time worrying if they are autistic." --sol smith.