Not a fan of any company where the CEO is proud to have worked at Palantir and Blackrock. Meh and gross.
ElevenLabs, TwelveLabs, ThirteenLabs
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#62https://41labs.ai/
I think this is the most obviously AI designed website I have ever seen.
From the nonsensical logo, the bland generic design language, overlapping support chats to mix and match of different landing page patterns. Misaligned avatar circles.
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#63Fwiw, ElevenLabs doesn't even make any sense as a firm, considering its TTS offering is extremely overpriced by an absurdly large factor. A large user would be far better off using local models. Even the OpenAI TTS is cheaper. There is no moat here such as with hardware.
The moat is marketing and good looking UI. They have been spamming Tik Tok et al. relentlessly and every lazy opportunist algorithm exploiter out there knows who they are, what they do, and that they can easily generate enough slop per cost to make their money back. So yeah, not a moat, but you're kinda missing the point. Just like Lovable is wildly over-priced, under powered, and has crazy levels of lock in built in (you can't even access your own supabase account that it uses for backend). It's not for you / us. Its for the masses who don't know (or want to know) any better.
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#64I'm disappointed that forty two labs isn't selling the answer to life, the universe and everything.
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#66Nowadays, if you really want to sound modern and avant garde, try pitching a non-AI startup.
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#68Missed the best name! https://1337labs.org/
(I'm not affiliated with this company and know nothing about it)
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#69Wow, haha I just created an LLC that is a " Labs" company. I don't plan on raising VC or anything public with it, it's just a name to release apps on the app store under. I was trying to come up with a name and it was exhausting, everything was taken, I was trying "clever names", eventually after strategizing with ChatGPT it gave me the suggestion along the lines of: "Many people just use their initials, birthdate, o…
I got lucky when registering an LLC last year for some contract work because despite having a relatively common first and last name, no one had named an nLLC that in my (very large) city. At some point during the process, I had to pick an officer title for myself for some paperwork, but there didn't seem to be any guidelines or restrictions on them, so I just put down my name for that too; I figured that being Firstn…
Doctors and dentist sometimes do that for their practices, but aren't the only ones working there.
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#70Tried to register sixsevenlabs, too late unfortunately...
All of them copied 15.ai ElevenLabs was a commercial version of 15.ai. It's crazy, because 15.ai could have had the venture-scale outcomes if he'd fundraised and turned it into a SaaS product. He was in the right place, right time, with tremendous attention, but missed the opportunity. The other "labs" followed the trend. The {number}labs / {number}.ai domains all quickly got squatted. I was in the same space and wat…
>It's crazy, because 15.ai could have had the venture-scale outcomes if he'd fundraised and turned it into a SaaS product
Or equivalently could have gone down as a "deepseek" moment in TTS if the model was open-sourced (I don't think even a paper was published). It's a bit strange, he never made any profit but also never ended up publishing anything even after it was shut down.