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How to Do Great Work (2023)

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Re: How to Do Great Work (2023)

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post #17

good related read: You and Your Research (Hamming) https://www.paulgraham.com/hamming.html

The above essay by OG Richard Hamming is the one to read (forget PG's essay). It is hosted in many places on the web and this is one of them.

Follow up with Hamming's classic book; The Art of Doing Science and Engineering: Learning to Learn available here (pdf) - https://worrydream.com/refs/Hamming_1997_-_The_Art_of_Doing_... It is a very unique one-of-a-kind book which is a must read cover-to-cover.

The last chapter of the above book is You and Your Research ;-)

Re: How to Do Great Work (2023)

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post #48

When Paul Graham uses a phrase like "great work" I can't help but only consider it as being synonymous to "work that generates a big return for the investor" in his context of Y Combinator

What do you want it to be synonymous to? The people who've managed to do great work without generating large investment returns not that large. Compared to the number of ambitious people presently looking for advice it is small.

There are and have been lots of people doing great work without generating large investment returns, because they aren't doing the kind of work that generates large investment returns at all.

Bach, Mozart, Beethoven. Newton, Gauss, Euler. Dante, Shakespeare, Goethe. Faraday, Darwin, Einstein.

(If you're looking for greatness on their scale, then of course the number will be "not that large" because work that great is very rare. But there are plenty of artists and scientists and whatnot achieving lesser levels of greatness and most of them are not getting large investment returns.)

Re: How to Do Great Work (2023)

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When Paul Graham uses a phrase like "great work" I can't help but only consider it as being synonymous to "work that generates a big return for the investor" in his context of Y Combinator

I didn’t read the whole essay, but it seems to be more like: find something you are interested in, interested enough to work very hard at it, and don’t worry about what others think too much. It seems basically true (and legitimately good advice), if a bit generic. It doesn’t seem particularly tied to start-ups or whatever. I didn’t get much from it, but I’ve gotten that sort of advice my whole life, so it was a litt…

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49133452

Re: How to Do Great Work (2023)

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There’s something cringey about having a zillion dollars and then using your cash soapbox to bloviate to everyone about how to be great-like-me.

Commenting on the person that wrote this is not really interesting though - it is in the same category as "I appreciate the fact that 'Paul' has 4 letters and a 2/2 split of vowels and consonants", as far as I am concerned.

Maybe you wanted to make a point about some aspects of the authors biography invalidated some claims they make? That would be interesting, then it would be good to be more specific regarding what you are refering to more concretely, though.

Re: How to Do Great Work (2023)

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post #8

Genuine question, what work has Paul Graham done that can be classified as 'great'?

This is the problem with the modern "everything superlative" verbiage. The Press, Social Media, The Public all are to blame for encouraging this. Everything is hyped up and hence the words lose their true meaning.

You are somewhat smart in one specific domain; you are a "Genius".

You are successful in something; you are the "Greatest".

You fail in something; you are a "Loser".

You make one single mistake; you are "Dumb".

It is almost as if we have forgotten how we got here viz. lots of trial-and-error, sheer persistence, extreme specialization, building theories, sharing knowledge, building teams, focusing on goals, good dose of luck, etc.

Re: How to Do Great Work (2023)

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When Paul Graham uses a phrase like "great work" I can't help but only consider it as being synonymous to "work that generates a big return for the investor" in his context of Y Combinator

I think it's a dishonest essay:

>The first step is to decide what to work on. The work you choose needs to have three qualities: it has to be something you have a natural aptitude for, that you have a deep interest in, and that offers scope to do great work.

>In practice you don't have to worry much about the third criterion. Ambitious people are if anything already too conservative about it. So all you need to do is find something you have an aptitude for and great interest in.

Bull-shit. The set of all things you enjoy and have aptitude for is much larger than the set of things you can make money on. There's a reason why Paul Graham chased coding and making an e-store in the 90s and not becoming a great philosopher, which he seems to have natural interest in (and he probably thinks he has quite a bit of aptitude for it).

That reason is $$$. I've found in my time that the number one rule of making $$$ is that you must chase $$$. It doesn't knock at your door, it doesn't come when you least expect it. $$$ is degrading in that you must submit yourself to it. If the $$$ is in code then you code and there's no room for individuality beyond that. It's genuflect or be poor. That's why all these rich people narrowly chase code or similar cash cows. The number two and three rules is chase it a lot and chase it efficiently. If you chase something else a lot and efficiently you will still be poor.

Charitably maybe the concept of chasing $$$ is so ingrained in these people that it's not a conscious decision to them. That seems to be what he says anyway. You could call that greed and I think a lot of brilliant people don't have it to the same degree that most billionaires do so failing to acknowledge it even by accident leads to gatekeeping money.

Re: How to Do Great Work (2023)

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People opposing this are secretly or subconsciously peddling a folk version of Labour Theory of Value. Great work doesn’t exist. All work is work and the only dimension is time. You should get paid according to your socially necessary hours and be valued according to it.

Re: How to Do Great Work (2023)

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post #7

The people qualified to do great work probably don't need the advice. They most likely lack resources (like money or free time), not guidance. The people who would benefit from the advice (resourceful people full of free time that are doing nothing meaningful) will likely ignore it anyway.

You assume that people are rigid in their habits. Inspiration goes a long way. Habits can be shaped greatly with the right motivation and mentorship.

That addresses only half of what I said. That's why you assume I'm assigning fixed roles, you're not seeing the big picture.

Can you go to a poor area and change it with a speech about ambition? Likely not that much. The issue there are not habits, it's an environment that disables dreaming big.

PG's text is for stragglers who were raised in environments that allow them to dream big, but they don't for some reason. That is such a low fraction of the world's potential, that seems like a waste of time.

Changing those environments I mentioned earlier is very hard. Absolutely brutal endeavour. I know hundreds of kids whose biggest dream is getting a high status paying job, because the entire environment shapes them for that. Those who can occasionally notice they can dream bigger ("doing great work") often feel intimidated, not uninspired. They can't afford to risk anything.

To me the greater change is possible on those environments who are intimidated, not the stragglers who feel uninspired.

Re: How to Do Great Work (2023)

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post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://paulgraham.com/spam.html I think all the parts were invented by other people, but he got the right mix to make it work. It's also like the wheel. Before it was a huge problem and no one know how to solve it. Now it's invisible. Note that all modern versions use enhanced variants with a lot or trick to make it better.

Every invention is made of other inventions all the way back to big rock and sharp stick. So yes Bayesian spam filtering was impressive for its time. I remember it being done locally in mail clients. It’s also one of the early popular deployments of a form of “AI” but that was still during the hangover from the first AI bubble when you had to call it “machine learning.”

Hah, remember the brief interval when SV got excited about hiring people with machine-learning skills again, and Google was hot, but "AI" was still a dirty name, so they started buzzing about hiring people with expertise in "algorithms"?

Re: How to Do Great Work (2023)

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When Paul Graham uses a phrase like "great work" I can't help but only consider it as being synonymous to "work that generates a big return for the investor" in his context of Y Combinator

I think it's a dishonest essay: >The first step is to decide what to work on. The work you choose needs to have three qualities: it has to be something you have a natural aptitude for, that you have a deep interest in, and that offers scope to do great work. >In practice you don't have to worry much about the third criterion. Ambitious people are if anything already too conservative about it. So all you need to do is…

Chasing money and making money is a virtue. Making money is not zero sum. If you are good at something and no one wants to pay for it, then you probably shouldn't be appreciated for it.

There's nothing dishonest about what he is saying and if you think you can make money just by making it your optimising function then I suggest following it because that's the most pro-social thing you can do. The literal economy is design in such a way!

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