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Re: Kimi Work

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Post by Danox »

postalcoder wrote: post #25

kimi has been particularly shameless in copying codex 1:1, wow. Like, I get it, before condex there was conductor and a ton of other guis but this looks like they just copied the code. Also, their privacy disclosure is incredibly misleading: > How does Kimi Work protect my privacy when accessing local files? You have absolute control over your files. The built-in Ask before acting safeguard means Kimi will prompt you…

Sharing among AI friends what’s the problem, scraping the Internet or hiring new employees between companies who like to share? It’s a tradition among the AI model makers…

Re: Kimi Work

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Post by postalcoder »

gruez wrote: post #53
postalcoder wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but the answer is an indirection. “How does Kimi Work protect my privacy when accessing local files?” It doesn’t protect your privacy. It’s like asking, “how do I know you’re not spying on me?” And getting the reply “we cannot physically enter your house.”

>It doesn’t protect your privacy. It’s like asking, “how do I know you’re not spying on me?” And getting the reply “we cannot physically enter your house.” In light of the recent grok build snafu, "Nothing happens without your consent" seems like an upgrade. Moreover what are they supposed to do here? By that logic should any sort of non e2e email/storage provider not be able to put "How does [product] protect my pri…

Yes I’m saying a question answered deceptively should not be one of the four featured questions on your product page.

> Looking through their privacy policy, it looks like the bigger issue is that they are (or refuse to refute) training on your data/prompts.

You’re making my entire point. They’ve designed an ingestion engine that is not private by design. Any sort of privacy posturing is wrong.

Re: Kimi Work

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Post by postalcoder »

valleyer wrote: post #47
cyanydeez wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

if your model ever touches bash, it has unfettered acess to all your files.

Not if the harness applies an OS-level sandbox to the process, as Codex does. https://learn.chatgpt.com/docs/sandboxing?surface=cli

Unfortunately it was possible in codex too, until recently.

https://github.com/openai/codex/issues/5237

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Post by cortesoft »

airstrike wrote: post #12
trollbridge wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aren’t there all chat interfaces? Same goes for Claude Work, ChatGPT Work, etc

That's precisely the problem. People are building UI/UX for a paradigm that is so utterly new that they miss the mark entirely. Everyone defaults to a big chat input because that's all they know. It's the expectation, so it's safer, faster, and cheaper to not deviate. It's also wrong and bad for work.

A CLI interface has been perfect for my coding work, why is it bad?

Re: Kimi Work

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Post by piker »

It's a mistake to make this such an obvious copy. It will feed the narrative that Chinese entities cannot be trusted by the West. They could have varied it even slightly. It's one thing with hardware because customers don't need to trust suppliers any further than they can throw the box. But these labs seem to be battling for enterprise knowledge work-share. Trust is paramount, and they're already behind on that front. Own goal.

Re: Kimi Work

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Post by catigula »

piker wrote: post #67

It's a mistake to make this such an obvious copy. It will feed the narrative that Chinese entities cannot be trusted by the West. They could have varied it even slightly. It's one thing with hardware because customers don't need to trust suppliers any further than they can throw the box. But these labs seem to be battling for enterprise knowledge work-share. Trust is paramount, and they're already behind on that fron…

Narrative?

Kind of like the sphere Earth narrative.

Re: Kimi Work

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Post by BowBun »

catigula wrote: post #68
piker wrote: post #67

It's a mistake to make this such an obvious copy. It will feed the narrative that Chinese entities cannot be trusted by the West. They could have varied it even slightly. It's one thing with hardware because customers don't need to trust suppliers any further than they can throw the box. But these labs seem to be battling for enterprise knowledge work-share. Trust is paramount, and they're already behind on that fron…

Narrative? Kind of like the sphere Earth narrative.

Pedantic.

> A narrative is a structured account of connected events, experiences, or ideas, commonly referred to as a story

Regardless of intent, it is how you tell your story.

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