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The lost joy of music piracy

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Re: The lost joy of music piracy

#61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

does it matter as long as yt-dlp is maintained?

Some people want more than "mystery meat" levels of audio quality.

But bandcamp is only 128 kbit MP3 for free streaming, now that’s not a mystery, but probably also not worse than whatever YT offers.

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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post #28

Music piracy is alive and well if you know where to look. Some places has been mentioned in this thread already. Of course there is no replacing the magic of early 2000-2010's p2p sites like OiNK, What and Waffles - but well curated sites still exist.

Indeed. I'm a member of a few music trackers and they have a lot of great stuff, but What's archive was amazing. One of my proudest things I own is a What.cd beer cooler I bought from them.

Never bought any merch from what, but I do own a ScT t-shirt :)

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

#63

I'm so incredibly happy police resources are being used to "protect" the rest of us from... harm...?

I guess that's something else a bunch of us learned about the world from moving in those circles. Important life lessons provided by being at least adjacent to music piracy.

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

#64

Any amount of joy you lost is a fraction of joy lost from people blatantly stealing the fruits of other people's's labor. Communities do not have to be parasites to exist. Similar amounts of joy could be created over a different interest that didn't require stealing and hurting others.

Is it stealing if when I buy digital I don't own it?

You have stolen a temporary license!

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

#65
I loved OiNK (and had the t-shirt), but neither What.cd nor waffles ever were a proper replacement for me.

What got me that feeling of discovery again, decades later, and even surpassed it, was doing release Fridays and just listening.

I mostly know what (sub)-genres I like, I go through upcoming release lists for the next week, open every bandcamp link in a new tab (or for those that don’t have bandcamp, I see if I care about the genre enough to search for a single on YouTube), and then I have maybe a hundred links, I sample everything for a few seconds and decide on yay or nay, and about 10 - 20 % go onto my excel sheet. Then on Fridays (up to Sunday, depending on how busy the release day is) I start listening to all those albums to see which of those I’ll buy (usually 1-2).

It’s some effort, but my appreciation for music was never this high.

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

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post #51

It's important to remember that to this day, streaming sites do not have a full archive of the music out there. There is still a need for music piracy Even albums mentioned in the Norwegian business magazine D2 can be impossible to find in legit channels. Your only option is to buy used CDs on Discogs for 50-100 USD, or know your way around the successors of these sites These CDs weren’t even on Oink or What (or did…

I think the streaming sites are in a difficult position.

On one hand I expect access to the worlds music, but on the other hand I also expect not to be drowned in 8bit covers and AI music.

They are - to me at least - also an arbiter of music, similarly to how record stores used to be.

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

#67

I'm so incredibly happy police resources are being used to "protect" the rest of us from... harm...?

Police exists to enforce the policy set by legislations.

Legislations define rules to protect "us" from harm, but police is for policing only.

They do not protect people. They protect the law.

Re: The lost joy of music piracy

#69
Closed private trackers are bastions of hope of preserving human culture. Every iteration since oink, they have become better and better and while at one point they will close the current ones, we will persevere. Where else would we find forgotten underground music only few people remember and how specific vinyl sounds. It's the community and love for music.
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