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Re: Neverclick: Desktop application for performing mouse actions with your keyboard

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Who is “you” in this case?

The person publishing the software. Who that is I don't know as it is not displayed anywhere on the website and the the github repo is published by "LazoVelko". Who this is I don't know either. For all I know they are a russian hacker and a future version of this software is going to add an exploit. That is why you should probably think twice about downloading and installing software published by an anonymous person…

You were replying to the person in the thread who clearly wasn’t the author, it was really confusing for a bit.

Re: Neverclick: Desktop application for performing mouse actions with your keyboard

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post #59

This reeks of likely malware. - Fake commit history - No source code, despite being hosted on github - Windows-only binaries available for download If I weren't on my work computer I would pull down those binaries to see what is in them. It sure smells fishy.

The commit history is a mirror of the real codebase, I wanted to show people that I've been working on this for a long time and that it's not vibe coded ai slop. In retrospect it seems that it was a mistake to do this. Neverclick is digitally signed with Microsoft Trusted Signing (now known as Azure Artifact Signing). I had to send them my address and ID to get my identity verified so that I'd get approved for it. Is…

Microsoft Trusted Signing only tells me you were able to get a key.

If this is intended to be an open source project, transparency would go a long way. The source code and actual history will make a big difference. If this is not intended to be an open source project, then hosting it on a source control system is misleading.

Not releasing source code is fine, but then you need to build trust. Is it paid software? Is there a company or a known name behind it (in which case, can you host it on that entity's website)? At minimum, toss up a website that describes what the software does, what the usage terms are, and whether it collects information about user systems and/or uploads data anywhere. Bonus, scan it with Windows Defender and a couple other malware scanners. Advertise that it scans clean.

Re: Neverclick: Desktop application for performing mouse actions with your keyboard

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The protocol for this has recently been accepted, now it has to be implemented by every compositor

That sounds like hell. All this just to set the X, Y of the mouse pointer?

Not even, this was deemed too insecure. So now we have to have one protocol per-use case instead of something that allows to handle easily all the use cases we already know exist - the most stupid thing possible

Re: Neverclick: Desktop application for performing mouse actions with your keyboard

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This looks cool! How is the planned Linux support (the website says "Coming soon for Linux") suppose to work? X11 only? Wayland? Gnome only (or any other DE)?

I am guessing wp_pointer_warp_v1 in Wayland, but not sure if all compositors support that. And that is just for moving the cursor. Can we "send" a wl_pointer click like that?

ydotool

Re: Neverclick: Desktop application for performing mouse actions with your keyboard

#65

Slightly related. On wayland based linux desktops this would never work because an app is not allowed to hijack the mouse pointer to dispatch events. I believe only the compositor is allowed to do that. I know, because I wanted to automate a GUI task using PyAutoGUI and it wouldnt work on wayland no matter what.

May I interest you in this:

https://github.com/uukelele/waydotool

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