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Re: Tiny data centre used to heat public swimming pool

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Is it feasible to do this at smaller scales? Would be cool to use my compurers to heat water at home. Put all that useless heat to good use. Air conditioners could do it too, right? Pump heat into a water reservoir instead of just throwing it away?

>Air conditioners could do it too, right?

Some heat pumps do this. E.g. Panasonic Aquarea EcoFleX. When cooling the house, the domestic hot water tank is used to dump heat into (up to a certain temperature).

Re: Tiny data centre used to heat public swimming pool

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I feel like this is one of those things that sounds good, but it's not. It's probably cheaper to build it far away from residential areas, and it's probably better for the people living there to not live too close to a data center.

Why, is there some hidden downside to living by a data center? Northern VA real estate is super pricey but they’ve got tons of them

The new ones are being built with massive numbers of unpermitted gas turbines with the exhaust filters removed, because there's not enough electricity and there isn't enough grid power and exhaust filtering costs money. So they're giving entire nearby towns asthma. They're also so loud the whole town can't sleep.

Data centers were, and still can be, some of the cleanest industrial facilities - but the ones being built in this AI wave are not, because they are being built as cheaply and as quickly as possible and without regards to proper infrastructure.

Re: Tiny data centre used to heat public swimming pool

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Something I have been wondering: Why don't data centres use the excess heat for a sort of energy recuperation, turning at least some of it back into electricity?

Carnot's law of thermodynamics says you can only do this effectively if you can run the computers at a few hundred, or ideally thousand, degrees C.

Landauer's principle says that even if we could build computers to work at those temperatures, they'd need more power anyway.

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This is mostly just due to how nonprofits work. If you have excess revenue, you can’t return it to shareholders so you might as well spend it on mission-oriented activities.

You can, and should, keep it in case you have less revenue next year though.

You can do this up to a point but if it looks like you're actually making a profit it might raise questions eventually. Keeping enough to cover one year's operating costs is pretty common though.

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All data centers that are in controversial areas should offer free heated swimming pools for the neighborhood. You could add a giant pool complex as a percentage or two of the cost of a big data center.

free sauna

free hot tub

free publicity and good will gathered

("free")

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I have a pool heater and an air conditioner, and I'm running both at the same time. They're fifty feet apart, but this thought crosses my mind constantly.

This does exist btw. It's a stainless steel coil that you can put on your A/C and then run water from your pool over it to heat the pool. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7fB8ul9dZw

The sticker on the side of the doohickey in the video really gives the whole thing a feeling of "a dude makes these by hand in his garage." I looked up "AC pool heat exchanger" and lo and behold, the same company showed up as the first result:

https://www.hotspotenergy.com/titanium-pool-heat-exchangers/

Re: Tiny data centre used to heat public swimming pool

#68
Here is a Swiss one that heats 6,000 apartments.

https://d4project.org/

> The data center delivers up to 1.7 MW of reusable heat – enough enough to warm 6,000 energy-efficient homes in winter or provide 20,000 five-minute showers every day in summer.

https://blog.siemens.com/2026/05/sustainable-data-infomaniak...

https://news.infomaniak.com/en/infomaniak-inaugurates-a-revo...

Re: Tiny data centre used to heat public swimming pool

#69

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I feel like this is one of those things that sounds good, but it's not. It's probably cheaper to build it far away from residential areas, and it's probably better for the people living there to not live too close to a data center.

why must we tear up undeveloped areas for data centers instead of backfilling vacant industrial areas? Humanity will never rest until all of the world is a brownfield

It's cheaper to build on vacant land than to get construction equipment and materials into a built up area, possibly discovering underground tanks and other surprises that can inflate the project cost, etc. City ordinances may also limit work hours and/or noise.

Rural land is cheap and there are fewer neighbors to annoy with the 24/7 construction activity.

Re: Tiny data centre used to heat public swimming pool

#70

Is it feasible to do this at smaller scales? Would be cool to use my compurers to heat water at home. Put all that useless heat to good use. Air conditioners could do it too, right? Pump heat into a water reservoir instead of just throwing it away?

heata.co do precisely this with hot water tanks

(I work there)

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