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Re: I Changed My Name

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Post by CatMustard »

arjie wrote: post #47

When we named our daughter, we decided to ensure that she’d have a simple FirstName LastName with no middle name. My wife’s middle name is frequently stapled onto her first and it causes no end of pain. There is some affordance available for representing various family members: her Chinese name can easily have different characters for them that have nothing to do with her actual name.

It can go the other way. My partner has no middle name and recently got a formal letter from the HSE (Irish national health service) addressed to "Sorcha No Name Ní Shúilleabháin"*

*not her actual first and last name to be clear, not doxxing her on HN.

Re: I Changed My Name

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Post by IAmBroom »

YeGoblynQueenne wrote: post #55
pavel_lishin wrote: post #7

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> What's also fun are alphabet differences. Yeah. Slavic names are fun here. Polish names are already long due to their di- and tri-graphs, and transliterated Russian and Ukrainian names can easily eat up the "maximum character count" if you have a lot of sibilants in your name. And that's before you meet with someone who has to try and stumble over the various zh, sh and sch sounds.

That must be why the Czechs leave all their names' vowels at home when they travel abroad :P

"Don't mock the Welsh. You have the privilege of growing up with a language that has vowels."

Re: I Changed My Name

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Post by YeGoblynQueenne »

Joker_vD wrote: post #57
YeGoblynQueenne wrote: post #54

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Ah... "Constantin Constantinovitch Constantino... pushkin"? Don't want to check it out online, just curious how well I can read Cyrillic as a native Greek speaker.

"Constantinopolsky", it's "Constantinopol" plus "-sky" which is for forming adjectives, so essentially it means "Constantinopolean".

Aha! Thanks! My eyes get very confused with the ин and the ий. I expect и to be the consonant and н the vowel but it seems like they're ... not?

Re: I Changed My Name

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Post by Joker_vD »

YeGoblynQueenne wrote: post #63
Joker_vD wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Constantinopolsky", it's "Constantinopol" plus "-sky" which is for forming adjectives, so essentially it means "Constantinopolean".

Aha! Thanks! My eyes get very confused with the ин and the ий. I expect и to be the consonant and н the vowel but it seems like they're ... not?

Yeah, they're opposite. I suggest taking a look at the rows 10 and 16 of the table at [0]: as you can see, those letters originally had their horizontal stroke differently slanted, but in time, the slant... slanted further, and turned "Ν" (GREEK CAPITAL LETTER NU) into "Н" (CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER EN), and "Η" (GREEK CAPITAL LETTER ETA) into "И" (CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER I).

You know, looking at that table, this alphabet is surprisingly fitting for modern Polish phonology, it even has nasal vowels.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Cyrillic_alphabet#Alphab...

Re: I Changed My Name

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Post by YeGoblynQueenne »

Joker_vD wrote: post #64
YeGoblynQueenne wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aha! Thanks! My eyes get very confused with the ин and the ий. I expect и to be the consonant and н the vowel but it seems like they're ... not?

Yeah, they're opposite. I suggest taking a look at the rows 10 and 16 of the table at [0]: as you can see, those letters originally had their horizontal stroke differently slanted, but in time, the slant... slanted further, and turned "Ν" (GREEK CAPITAL LETTER NU) into "Н" (CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER EN), and "Η" (GREEK CAPITAL LETTER ETA) into "И" (CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER I). You know, looking at that table, this alpha…

>> Yeah, they're opposite. I suggest taking a look at the rows 10 and 16 of the table at [0]: as you can see, those letters originally had their horizontal stroke differently slanted, but in time, the slant... slanted further, and turned "Ν" (GREEK CAPITAL LETTER NU) into "Н" (CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER EN), and "Η" (GREEK CAPITAL LETTER ETA) into "И" (CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER I).

Weird!

>> You know, looking at that table, this alphabet is surprisingly fitting for modern Polish phonology, it even has nasal vowels.

Oh dear. Now I need to look those up.

Re: I Changed My Name

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Post by dodecaphonic »

kxkdkdjxkwk wrote: post #59
dodecaphonic wrote: post #14

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Brazilian here. Around these parts, middle names are not a thing. They don’t show up in forms, and also aren’t expected to exist. When the names before the family names are multiple, we call them “nomes compostos” (composed/combined names). There are very common combinations, such as “Carlos Eduardo” and “Maria Clara”. If someone named “Maria Clara Guimarães Schindhelm” fills out a form, they’ll say their given name…

> Around these parts, middle names are not a thing. Not sure where you’re getting that from. Middle names are very much a thing in Brazil. You don’t often find forms with separate fields for middle names but middle names are ridiculously common nonetheless.

What I was trying to convey is that there are people with more than one name that are not their family names, but "middle name" as a concept does not exist in the same way it does in other cultures. It's not an expected component of a person's full name.
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