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sqlite-utils 4.0rc2, mostly written by Claude Fable (for about $149.25)

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Re: sqlite-utils 4.0rc2, mostly written by Claude Fable (for about $149.25)

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Post by dan_i »

embedding-shape wrote: post #15
Tiberium wrote: post #2

The title cost is only if this was raw API usage, but it was included in a subscription, so it's a small subset of the $200 plan: > I upgraded to the Claude Max $200/month plan (I was previously on $100/month) to increase my Fable allowance for the remaining time until the July 7th Fablepocalypse, when even Claude Max subscribers will have to pay full API cost for the model. I really wonder if Anthropic will stick wi…

> especially in the light of GPT 5.6 very likely coming out next week Finally have an explanation why GPT 5.5 xhigh felt dumber and dumber these last few weeks, always the same thing when a new model release is about to come out...

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Re: sqlite-utils 4.0rc2, mostly written by Claude Fable (for about $149.25)

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Post by Bombthecat »

avidphantasm wrote: post #56

> I went out to enjoy the Half Moon Bay 4th of July parade, occasionally checking in and prompting the next step for Fable from my phone. This intensification of work will not be good for workers’ health. Like, put your phone down man. You can’t be modeling this behavior to young people. Further, the intensification of work is probably not even good for productivity in the long term. This periodic half-thinking about…

To late

You either do it, or you are out

Re: sqlite-utils 4.0rc2, mostly written by Claude Fable (for about $149.25)

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Post by dan_i »

avidphantasm wrote: post #56

> I went out to enjoy the Half Moon Bay 4th of July parade, occasionally checking in and prompting the next step for Fable from my phone. This intensification of work will not be good for workers’ health. Like, put your phone down man. You can’t be modeling this behavior to young people. Further, the intensification of work is probably not even good for productivity in the long term. This periodic half-thinking about…

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Re: sqlite-utils 4.0rc2, mostly written by Claude Fable (for about $149.25)

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Post by dan_i »

uniqueuid wrote: post #53
utopiah wrote: post #52

Great to see such write ups in particular with money. At least 2 things the random LinkedIn post will ignore, on purpose or not : - price today remains low (even though they might feel higher than before), Uber is the business model, no secret there, it's a VC classic - $150 spent by an expert, a software engineer with significant practical knowledge in AI, is not equivalent to the exact same amount spent by a novice…

It's also about variance in the number. Expert software engineers will still accidentally burn $500 or $5000 on tasks that don't work, or are not efficient. Amateurs will accidentally spend $100 to get something great. So part of the change is a change in the risk structure of using frontier models. Before, you'd burn your quota; now, you can burn uncapped (less-capped) money.

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Re: sqlite-utils 4.0rc2, mostly written by Claude Fable (for about $149.25)

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Post by arcanemachiner »

KronisLV wrote: post #48
dreadnip wrote: post #3

The problem I have with this workflow is that the models are still too eager to please. If I ask it to scan a release and note possible issues, it absolutely will find issues. If I keep running the same prompt, it will keep finding issues. I’ve spammed GitHub PR reviews and it just keep finding (or inventing?) new issues. There is never a “Nothing found, good to go!”. I have to keep reminding myself that the model wi…

> There is never a “Nothing found, good to go!”. I have to keep reminding myself that the model will always give me what I ask for, regardless of the reality/truth. Tell it something like: Before doing any commits or producing a summary for the user, you must run a verification sub-agent. Its goal is to adversarially and critically check your supposed findings to look out for false positives and hallucinations. Doing…

A second look is always useful when using these damn things.

Re: sqlite-utils 4.0rc2, mostly written by Claude Fable (for about $149.25)

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Post by TiredOfLife »

Muromec wrote: post #31
5701652400 wrote: post #22

just a note. in most parts of the world 149.25 USD can cover utilities, water, and food for a month for 1 adult person or even a family.

That's my electricity bill for a year, okay

That's my electricity bill for a month

Re: sqlite-utils 4.0rc2, mostly written by Claude Fable (for about $149.25)

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Post by seer »

dreadnip wrote: post #3

The problem I have with this workflow is that the models are still too eager to please. If I ask it to scan a release and note possible issues, it absolutely will find issues. If I keep running the same prompt, it will keep finding issues. I’ve spammed GitHub PR reviews and it just keep finding (or inventing?) new issues. There is never a “Nothing found, good to go!”. I have to keep reminding myself that the model wi…

I’ve found that Claude is really good at picking up tone of voice in prompts / queries.

If I go “find issues in this code” it will hallucinate some, but if I say “can you check the recent change, there might be some things that introduced regressions, maybe?” Then it will be more cautious.

Also especially fable but opus too can talk back and advise you against going into a direction it thinks unwise.

And I’ve had much more success in clearing out why I think that is a better approach or asking it to clarify itself, as if if I tell it my assumption, sometimes it self corrects and starts doing what I needed in the first place, it was just coming at it from a different direction before. For example assuming I don’t care about cost and providing “the best solution” or trying to make something reusable where what I needed something quick (or vice versa)

It really is best to think of it as a gradient plane where it might get stuck in local minima, or you can prime it to “teeter on the edge” and able to flow into different directions.

Re: sqlite-utils 4.0rc2, mostly written by Claude Fable (for about $149.25)

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Post by 5701652400 »

klustregrif wrote: post #42
5701652400 wrote: post #22

just a note. in most parts of the world 149.25 USD can cover utilities, water, and food for a month for 1 adult person or even a family.

Had this been a corporate environment the net saving by using one person partly and an agent as opposed to one person full time for the time it would take to implement this, would be a net saving enough to cover utilities, water and food for an entire village. It’s silly to act like this was an added cost in a vacuum, or that any costs translate directly into charity for arbitrary families. Also in some place it woul…

just hire someone in Bangladesh or some remote Philipines/Indonesia/Vietnam or even eastern EU.

no need for charities or any sort. plenty of people in Software and plenty of people laid off every day.

Re: sqlite-utils 4.0rc2, mostly written by Claude Fable (for about $149.25)

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Post by 5701652400 »

xyzzy123 wrote: post #29
5701652400 wrote: post #22

just a note. in most parts of the world 149.25 USD can cover utilities, water, and food for a month for 1 adult person or even a family.

In Sydney Australia its < 2 days of median rent.

severely overpriced.
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