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>Also suitable for keeping an economy functioning The (western) economy runs on sub 7nm phone, laptop and datacenter chips on which the white collar workforce produces value. Those are the ones that are also the most profitable since they have the highest margins. Europe doesn't have that.
A drone will work with 30nm chips just fine, but it won't work with no chips at all
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#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Also suitable for keeping an economy functioning The (western) economy runs on sub 7nm phone, laptop and datacenter chips on which the white collar workforce produces value. Those are the ones that are also the most profitable since they have the highest margins. Europe doesn't have that.
A drone will work with 30nm chips just fine, but it won't work with no chips at all
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There are worse ways to spend tax payers money.
Yeah, most europeans are not aware how much do we spend on agriculture, pensions and healthcare.
I also prefer to be able to go to the doctor and not be broke, because modern medicine is fucking expensive and nearly nobody would be able to pay for that alone. Also even for the few rich guys who could afford it, it gets cheaper that way, because otherwise there would be far fewer people on whose shoulder the fixed costs need to be split.
The issue with the pensions is also not the pensions per se, but the very unhealthy population structure. That's a problem nobody has a real solution for, but that doesn't mean pensions are bad.
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These are different plants, that are situated in the same quarter. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1191197175 vs. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/583767292
I wonder how these will fare in Saxony. I presume it's an industry which will attract and depend on highly qualified foreign workers. Dresden itself may be fine, but parts of Saxony are sadly no-go areas for anyone remotely non-white, or even moderately liberal. It's a really brain-damaged region outside of Dresden and Leipzig, and even those cities are not exactly welcoming examples of diversity. Given a historic ch…
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#65EDIT: Apparently it's a different plant. It's not just Infineon - it's called the European Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (ESMC) and is a joint venture by TSMC, Bosch, Infineon, and NXP, with TSMC being the majority (70%) shareholder. I've met one of the engineers designing the piping for that plant. Hardest project to date for him and mainly because TSMC was setting the pace.
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Also suitable for keeping an economy functioning and weaponry in war. You might not be able to fabricate billion terraflop GPUs but at least the basics of survival will be able to be locally produced without scavenging washing machines for parts.
>Also suitable for keeping an economy functioning The (western) economy runs on sub 7nm phone, laptop and datacenter chips on which the white collar workforce produces value. Those are the ones that are also the most profitable since they have the highest margins. Europe doesn't have that.
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“Only for industrial uses” is kind of a crazy thing to say when you say it out loud, don’t you think? You might as well say “only for having real-world impact”.
And 3nm CPUs, GPUs, phone SoCs don't have "real world impact"? One could say they have an even bigger real world impact.
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#68If I was Queen of Germany, I would put everything into a platform like Arduino or RaspPi which can be widely used across industries and education. Some amount of taxes will be allocated to buy these boards and guarantee demand for manufacturing. Then every citizen gets such a device in return. Basically mandatory purchase. The education sector can completely lean in on the platform, abundance will have it dominate DI…
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#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wonder how these will fare in Saxony. I presume it's an industry which will attract and depend on highly qualified foreign workers. Dresden itself may be fine, but parts of Saxony are sadly no-go areas for anyone remotely non-white, or even moderately liberal. It's a really brain-damaged region outside of Dresden and Leipzig, and even those cities are not exactly welcoming examples of diversity. Given a historic ch…
> but parts of Saxony are sadly no-go areas for anyone remotely non-white Which is of course exaggerated as usually and if you are referring to the AFD, my take is that the focus on the eastern part is just cope by the western part, they are rising the same in the western part, the eastern is just ahead of the curve. This is very much a problem of the complete country. If the administration(s) manage to bring back th…
Sure buddy. https://www.raa-sachsen.de/support/statistik/statistiken/rec...
There is a reason, every young person with half a brain moves to Leipzig/Dresden, or leaves Saxony completely. Cope...The problem with right wing extremism in the area predates the AfD, Saxony was always in the top three for right wing hate crimes. Maybe read criminal stats or Verfassungsschutzberichte instead of crying injustice. Dude, you can't blame lack of decency and empathy on the economy forever... And it won't get better by ignoring shit feeling entitled to outside help fixing your mess.
> How are they shooting themself in the foot, by investing into semiconductors?
Maybe read the comment you replied to. The investment into semiconductors is the great chance for prosperity, reactionary politics and xenophobia how they ruin it.
Public perception is already brilliant: https://www.fr.de/politik/vorsicht-ostdeutschland-11150062.h...
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#70If I was Queen of Germany, I would put everything into a platform like Arduino or RaspPi which can be widely used across industries and education. Some amount of taxes will be allocated to buy these boards and guarantee demand for manufacturing. Then every citizen gets such a device in return. Basically mandatory purchase. The education sector can completely lean in on the platform, abundance will have it dominate DI…
Good, that you are not. An overpriced variant, running on marketing, of a cheap non-customizable product, riddled with design errors in the hardware and non-existent to actually broken software, without any liability and support, basically only suitable for consumers with too much time and interest, being mandatory for the industry is surely going to help.