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Re: AI fake news complaining about how AI fake news is the death of real news

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I didn't say that either. Strawmanning isn't very nice. Have a good day!

> This AI stuff is neither good or bad, it is a tool. The people using it are either good or bad. You quite literally did??

“AI” is inert. It responds to stimuli, no? The intentions of the stimulator drive the response, no? Is that not accurate?

Re: AI fake news complaining about how AI fake news is the death of real news

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I constantly wonder what is the societal benefits of AI It’s really hard to build a coherent pro-AI argument

I find it to be a useful tool for summarizing things, creating examples, and as a tutor for explaining a topic using analogies. Plus it can generate and iterate on code snippets. Like, I personally find python pandas documentation unusable because they don't come with examples next to the function definition. (historically at least, maybe they have changed) So I was left flailing, trying to cobble something together…

Sure, its very useful. I’m not denying its utility.

I just wonder if the utility merits the resources allocated to it

Re: AI fake news complaining about how AI fake news is the death of real news

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I constantly wonder what is the societal benefits of AI It’s really hard to build a coherent pro-AI argument

I think if I had to find any defence for AI, it's that it provides an efficient way to create things that don't matter, but which society desperately tries to pretend are important somehow. Meaningless corporate presentations, most documents used for hiring and job searching, content on business sites that probably doesn't need to be there, etc. AI at least speeds that up given society's reluctance to get rid of it a…

It’s creating this weird flatness everywhere where people are using it to create things that don’t matter (LinkedIn posts, dull corporate presentations). But because everyone is also using it for the exact same purposes, the same things now matter even less

LinkedIn posts never really mattered. But because everyone is now using broadly the same tools and prompts to create LinkedIn posts, the posts matter even less now

Re: AI fake news complaining about how AI fake news is the death of real news

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I constantly wonder what is the societal benefits of AI It’s really hard to build a coherent pro-AI argument

Products need to be sold Ads needed to sell products Social media sells lots of ads around content Content is expensive because you need to revenue share with the people that make it AI makes content for free Ad sales margin goes up Tech companies make most of their money selling ads around content and they needed a way to increase margin so they created a content making machine.

You just end up creating a doom loop where everyone is using the same tools to create similar content and eventually, no one really cares about the content because all of it is the same

I’ve already seen this in my own behavior where anything even remotely AI-generated makes me tune out completely

Re: AI fake news complaining about how AI fake news is the death of real news

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> Why have 20 or 30 stories tailored to specific groups of humans, when you can have stories rendered on the fly for individuals, targetting all their greatest fears and folly. I think it's easy to overestimate how much the average voter is seeking out these weird articles. Obviously as nerds on HN they're enjoyable to pick apart, but in the grand scheme of the American electorate, I'd wager this sort of AI fake news…

Cambridge Analytics shows that there's no "seeking out", instead it enters your feed on Facebook and other sites. That you don't go looking, but it's recommended. And CA did quite well doing this, so it's not a myth or hyperbole.

We must learn from history. Not wave it away.

I think the novel was Imperial Earth, but I'm not sure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Earth

It's not the highlight of that novel, but I recall the person selected being upset, as it would interfere with their research work. And then some line about "that's why you're perfect, you don't want the job" or something similar.

But not 100% on this, it's just what Google hands me and seems to sync up.

It could have been by an obscure author, which would never show in Google results. I think around 2002 or so, I downloaded a massive txt archive of sci-fi books. As in, 1k authors+. Lots of them I couldn't find in any store. I think I've read some of each author, so it's unclear to me which it may be. And of course, I'd just buy used books by the armful back in the 90s.

Anyhey, good luck.

Re: AI fake news complaining about how AI fake news is the death of real news

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> This AI stuff is neither good or bad, it is a tool. The people using it are either good or bad. You quite literally did??

“AI” is inert. It responds to stimuli, no? The intentions of the stimulator drive the response, no? Is that not accurate?

So that is the argument you’re making?

Everything is driven by a stimulator, dumbass. LLMs have one purpose and it’s plagiarism. Downplaying that by saying “someone’s doing the plagiarism” doesn’t make the plagiarism machine okay. Are you this retarded about guns, too?

Re: AI fake news complaining about how AI fake news is the death of real news

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“AI” is inert. It responds to stimuli, no? The intentions of the stimulator drive the response, no? Is that not accurate?

So that is the argument you’re making? Everything is driven by a stimulator, dumbass. LLMs have one purpose and it’s plagiarism. Downplaying that by saying “someone’s doing the plagiarism” doesn’t make the plagiarism machine okay. Are you this retarded about guns, too?

It is unfortunate you’ve resorted to name calling and vulgar terminology. I hope you find some happiness.

Re: AI fake news complaining about how AI fake news is the death of real news

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So that is the argument you’re making? Everything is driven by a stimulator, dumbass. LLMs have one purpose and it’s plagiarism. Downplaying that by saying “someone’s doing the plagiarism” doesn’t make the plagiarism machine okay. Are you this retarded about guns, too?

It is unfortunate you’ve resorted to name calling and vulgar terminology. I hope you find some happiness.

You're telling me to refute nonsense and I'm telling you to get lost. I'm not "resorting" to anything.

Re: AI fake news complaining about how AI fake news is the death of real news

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It is unfortunate you’ve resorted to name calling and vulgar terminology. I hope you find some happiness.

You're telling me to refute nonsense and I'm telling you to get lost. I'm not "resorting" to anything.

Dumbass. Retard. If you’re not resorting to those words, you’re right, I gave you the benefit of the doubt. My mistake.

Re: AI fake news complaining about how AI fake news is the death of real news

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I constantly wonder what is the societal benefits of AI It’s really hard to build a coherent pro-AI argument

Why would your lack of innovation and imagination be an argument against? Aren't you just proving that your intellectual output is low value and replaceable by AI?

Even worse, you are probably lying, you can think of pro-AI arguments but you refuse to give them assent because of bad motivated reasoning?

You are double bad.

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