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Studio Canal Movies purchased on PlayStation Store removed without refund

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Re: Studio Canal Movies purchased on PlayStation Store removed without refund

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Post by iainmerrick »

dfxm12 wrote: post #50
dingaling wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DVD perhaps yes, until the disc degrades. BluRay no, because your player's keys can be revoked when you pop in a new disc.

Ok, how long do you have to rip & copy the content as you desire? It is still reasonably a forever version. Before you bring up laws around keys, first consider that jaywalking in front of your house is illegal too. Again, it is reasonably a forever version.

jaywalking in front of your house is illegal

In most parts of the world it’s not illegal. That’s a seriously draconian law.

Re: Studio Canal Movies purchased on PlayStation Store removed without refund

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Post by baliex »

bombcar wrote: post #38
pavel_lishin wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Convenience is 99% of the answer. Plus, when "renting" a movie costs $3.99, and "buying" it costs $5.99, there's not a particular reason to not click the "purchase" button.

I wish more platforms would let you rent for $4, and then show you an "upgrade to buy for $3" or similar for a week afterwards.

Why would they? They make more money if you pay the $7 up front.

Re: Studio Canal Movies purchased on PlayStation Store removed without refund

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Post by notapenny »

mghackerlady wrote: post #7

Why do people buy movies digitally anyway? I can understand digital movies (they are convenient) but renting or streaming seems far more reasonable. If you truly want to own a movie as I suspect people who buy them digitally do, the only way to ensure that is to buy it on DVD/Blu-ray and rip (or redeem the digital code version that often comes with modern releases, though those tend to have DRM). Even then, why do pe…

For me it's usually just a cost thing. Some movies I just know I'm going to watch multiple times, certain ones even annually. Clicking buy generally already makes sense if you're going to watch it twice. Wouldn't buy it from the PS store though, it seems like such a niche outside their core business that I'd be worried they would pull exactly what they pulled here.

Re: Studio Canal Movies purchased on PlayStation Store removed without refund

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Post by ahtihn »

dingaling wrote: post #45
dfxm12 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Terminator 2 is currently $8 for a bluray on amazon. $10 for a DVD. This is reasonably a forever version.

DVD perhaps yes, until the disc degrades. BluRay no, because your player's keys can be revoked when you pop in a new disc.

> BluRay no, because your player's keys can be revoked when you pop in a new disc

Wait what? How? How is that possibly legal?

Re: Studio Canal Movies purchased on PlayStation Store removed without refund

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Post by nekusar »

dfxm12 wrote: post #53
lstodd wrote: post #52

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Why even bother with all those hoops. Just download.

Oh, I was adding a pertinent point of discussion in a discussion board. It is fun. I suggest you try it.

Snarky shit aside...

Why should I pay to be treated as a criminal, when pirating is better in every way and costs nothing?

There is no option of "Pay for digital copy of show that permits format/time shifting and backup for as long as I want, with no DRM". Like GOG. Doesn't exist in the pay realm.

Re: Studio Canal Movies purchased on PlayStation Store removed without refund

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Post by Schiendelman »

dfxm12 wrote: post #50
dingaling wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DVD perhaps yes, until the disc degrades. BluRay no, because your player's keys can be revoked when you pop in a new disc.

Ok, how long do you have to rip & copy the content as you desire? It is still reasonably a forever version. Before you bring up laws around keys, first consider that jaywalking in front of your house is illegal too. Again, it is reasonably a forever version.

Crossing the street in a residential neighborhood is legal in almost all of the world and increasingly legal in the US as well. Many major cities started with non-enforcement and some are rolling back jaywalking laws entirely.

Re: Studio Canal Movies purchased on PlayStation Store removed without refund

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Post by bombcar »

baliex wrote: post #62
bombcar wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish more platforms would let you rent for $4, and then show you an "upgrade to buy for $3" or similar for a week afterwards.

Why would they? They make more money if you pay the $7 up front.

Sure, but if it's buy now $6, or rent $4, upgrade to buy $3, they make a bit more the other way.

Re: Studio Canal Movies purchased on PlayStation Store removed without refund

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Post by dewey »

paxys wrote: post #49
pixelatedindex wrote: post #46

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Presumably at the time of sale they had rights to it. They lost it later, but should have at least had secured rights to people who bought the damn thing.

If the contract has an end date then there’s no reason not to mention it during the sale.

You don't always know that, you can have an open ended license with an option to get it revoked in the future with some notice period. I'd be pretty sure that PlayStation also had that in their terms and covered themselves legally for that option.

Re: Studio Canal Movies purchased on PlayStation Store removed without refund

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Post by gsich »

ahtihn wrote: post #64
dingaling wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DVD perhaps yes, until the disc degrades. BluRay no, because your player's keys can be revoked when you pop in a new disc.

> BluRay no, because your player's keys can be revoked when you pop in a new disc Wait what? How? How is that possibly legal?

This was planned for DVDs too, but they failed miserably.

In any other case: use MakeMKV

Re: Studio Canal Movies purchased on PlayStation Store removed without refund

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

ahtihn wrote: post #64
dingaling wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DVD perhaps yes, until the disc degrades. BluRay no, because your player's keys can be revoked when you pop in a new disc.

> BluRay no, because your player's keys can be revoked when you pop in a new disc Wait what? How? How is that possibly legal?

Key revocation applies to releases published after the revocation date. Old media should continue playing with a compromised device key.
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