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Sakana Fugu

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Re: Sakana Fugu

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As a developer outside the US I think it's vital to have alternatives to OpenAI and Anthropic, but sadly this is not it. For $200/month you get https://x.com/cortesi/status/2068898694238486658

I'm glad eager people like you test for lazy people like me

Re: Sakana Fugu

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post #28

As a developer outside the US I think it's vital to have alternatives to OpenAI and Anthropic, but sadly this is not it. For $200/month you get https://x.com/cortesi/status/2068898694238486658

u seem to be the only one who used it here - how did it compare to opus and gpt5.5? in theory it should be at least on par if not better at times right.

Re: Sakana Fugu

#63
post #55

Will Le Chat try to eat Sakana? There is Le Chaton Fat and then there is Sakana Fugu too..

> Le Chaton Fat

For others looking around: LCF is a meme model, it's not real. It's a joke.

Re: Sakana Fugu

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post #28

As a developer outside the US I think it's vital to have alternatives to OpenAI and Anthropic, but sadly this is not it. For $200/month you get https://x.com/cortesi/status/2068898694238486658

u seem to be the only one who used it here - how did it compare to opus and gpt5.5? in theory it should be at least on par if not better at times right.

I only had time to use it for a couple of deep reviews of large Rust projects, and a few agentic coding tasks (implement plan X, refactor Y in fashion Z) before my quota ran out. My impression is that the reviews were quite strong - maybe Opus 4.8+ or around GPT 5.5 (for my particular use case) - but very slow. For implementation I found it weaker, it made a few mistakes that I haven't seen frontier models make in a long time.

Re: Sakana Fugu

#65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I imagine if it was Deepseek partnering with the CCP it would be different?

I was just stating facts about Sakana, and that was enough to trigger you? For the same reason, I don’t use GPT either. At least for now, DeepSeek has no ties to the defense sector. And don’t talk as if the CCP were the devil. The U.S. president is the world’s biggest arms dealer, after all.

Of course DeepSeek is used by the PLA, why would you think otherwise? https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/3303512/chi... There can be multiple devils, after all.

Re: Sakana Fugu

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The Sony WH-1000XM series and the Bose QC35 were the standard quality headphones years before AirPods were a thing, and both retailed at $300+.

Of course, premium headphones existed before. I have a WH-1000XM4 sitting right next to me. But your aunt Josie didn't have one. Now Apple is selling 80 million units / year and the ~$300 price tag has become normal. Before that, most people had headphones that were 10 times cheaper.

$300 isn’t what AirPods cost though. You can get a pair of AirPods 4 for $129 on Apple.com, and I presume that is still the most popular model. If you’re paying ~$300, you are buying premium headphones.

Re: Sakana Fugu

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post #56
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those were hobbyists, audiophiles, professionals, artists (recording, performing, etc.). They are talking about a much larger group of people.

I think OP meant noise-cancelling headphones, which were fairly ubiquitous in tech circles in open offices; before Apple launched AirPods.

Airpods Inc. would be very high up SP500 as a standalone business.

Re: Sakana Fugu

#68
There are so many derisive comments here.

David Ha, CEO and co-founder, was one of the youngest managing director at Goldman Sachs before doing ML at Google. His ML publications were considered top-notch almost a decade ago. I had high hopes for him when he raised money and founded Sakana.

I do agree with some comments here that perhaps this particular product is not well thought out. I also agree with the criticism that David calls Sakana a frontier AI lab while making money just selling AI B2B applications to Japanese businesses. I also agree with the assessment that Sakana has abrasive and antagonistic, sometimes openly hostile, recruiting tactics. I also agree that his then-impressive publications may have lost their luster in the age of LLMs.

However, the man is clearly driven; and he and his team may have more to offer in future. I admire the man for not taking the conventional AI-research career path.

Re: Sakana Fugu

#69

You pay $200/month to Anthropic, $200/month to OpenAI, $200/month to Cursor, $200/month to $200/month to Google, and seeing that it didn't come to a nice round $1024/month, you pay $200/month to Sakana to coordinate it all, because why not. While you're at it, feel free to send me $200 as well, I'll generate a crypto address ending with "AI".

Does it work? I’m less interested in economics than fit with an MVP.

Re: Sakana Fugu

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post #60
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or TrustedRouter if you want privacy and open source

You ought to realize that shilling your product in the comments doesn't exactly come across as trustworthy.

Disclosing affiliation hasn’t been a legal thing for a while. It’s reputational. Knowing that firm spams is a black mark.
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