What happens if you refuse to yield?
Or gently push them out of your way?
'We had to get out of the way': The backlash over delivery robots
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Re: 'We had to get out of the way': The backlash over delivery robots
#62I am not from the US so I would never encounter one, but what happens if you kick them / hurt them / destroy them? Do they have a recording camera that would show you did it?
Yes. Autonomous delivery vehicles and sidewalk delivery robots are equipped with multiple high-definition cameras. If an incident—such as a collision, vandalism, or theft—occurs, the vehicle's surveillance systems or navigational cameras will have captured exactly what happened.
Nothing a mask and a can of spray paint can't prevent
Not that I would ever suggest anyone mask up, blind them with paint, then take a crowbar to these things or anything
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#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
Robots that cannot share sidewalks with humans, including humans in wheelchairs, should be banned from sidewalks. Full stop. End of discussion. They can use the streets proper if they want to. I'm sure there is some way to formalize that using ADA sidewalk requirements or something similar.
> They can use the streets proper if they want to. How about no? They'll block traffic there, too.
Only at first, they'll fragment after the first few cars.
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure, and the delivery robots have people who want the things at the end, and the robots can't (apparently) go in the road. Roads used to be for people and wagons, till cars showed up and kicked the people off. Now delivery bots are trying to do the same thing, kick the humans on foot off the sidewalks.
You are hardly searching for parallels where no are.
No, his parallel works. This was also like when the e scooter/e bike craze was high and they just started occupying public space on the sidewalks because “fuck you, I can” and it was the nominal citizens problem to work around it.
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This would seem like an easy ADA case.
I'm not aware of someone filing such a case yet, but I would think so too. I'm not sure if you would sue the city or the robot company, or both? It feels like a failure on the part of both.
Why would the city be liable for shitty robot behavior?
Maybe you could construct a situation where they would be but I can't imagine it would be one that would play out in real life. A city allowing robots to operate would make the robot company to follow all applicable laws" including ADA so unless the city's lawyer is really really bad this lands on the robot company.
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#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not aware of someone filing such a case yet, but I would think so too. I'm not sure if you would sue the city or the robot company, or both? It feels like a failure on the part of both.
Why would the city be liable for shitty robot behavior? Maybe you could construct a situation where they would be but I can't imagine it would be one that would play out in real life. A city allowing robots to operate would make the robot company to follow all applicable laws" including ADA so unless the city's lawyer is really really bad this lands on the robot company.
Whatever entities, city or state which are doing the licensing and permitting I'd imagine might be able to be sued.
Because it's a bit of a unique new situation with no caselaw, it would be a pretty open question of who could be sued for what.
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not aware of someone filing such a case yet, but I would think so too. I'm not sure if you would sue the city or the robot company, or both? It feels like a failure on the part of both.
It's not the city's responsibility to make the sidewalks delivery robot friendly, it's 100% a failure on the part of the robot company
The city gives them permits, they don't just freely operate wherever.
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#68Re: 'We had to get out of the way': The backlash over delivery robots
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
True but cyclists have already established a precedent of taking over pedestrian paths without consequence, at least in the CA Bay Area
What does this have to do with robots? What does a local government failure to provide cycling infrastructure have to do with private businesses co-opting public shared resources?
There is cycling infrastructure, the cyclists just choose to use pedestrian sidewalks. If cyclists infringing on pedestrian pathways isn't enforced, why should robots infringing on pedestrian pathways be enforced?
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True but cyclists have already established a precedent of taking over pedestrian paths without consequence, at least in the CA Bay Area
Post you're replying to: "motorized vehicles" You: "cyclists" I don't get it. Can you explain why humans on bicycles are relevant to a discussion of motorized robots? Are you talking specifically about e-bike users scooting along on the sidewalk at 40mph or something?
Because cyclists violating pedestrian walkways isn't enforced, so robots violating pedestrian walkways not being enforced is at least the law being enforced consistently.