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SteamOS Linux 3.8 released as stable

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Re: SteamOS Linux 3.8 released as stable

#61

It's always great to hear about linux in gaming. It's sad that they decide to increase the price for steam deck (even if I have one already). Hope it doesn't mean steam machine will cost 1000+.

"decide" feels like a particularly choice word for a supply chain issue hitting many consumer facing companies.

Well, they could also decide to sell it at a loss! /s

Re: SteamOS Linux 3.8 released as stable

#62
post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The hard part is making one work on it since none already exist like the hundreds that exist for normal computers like Deck. They might not let their 6dof headset tracking code be shared and getting that working would be very hard.

Given Valve's past history in this regard I'm inclined to believe it'll be possible to install whatever you like on the thing, and that there'll be a reasonably well documented way of integrating with the sensors/display. Valve have got decades of form on being as open as possible with their hardware and I've seen nothing recently to make me think that's changed.

Software wise their SteamVR / OpenVR stuff is very closed source. Someone had to reverse engineer their Lighthouse tracking which is hard but doing that is easier than making 6dof SLAM tracking just from camera access. All I am saying is its not easy and people will have to do hard work.

Re: SteamOS Linux 3.8 released as stable

#63
I tried installing SteamOS on a couple machines last week. One pain point is that their install scripts are just that - non interactive scripts that are designed for gaming handhelds such as the steam deck. The main issue being it expects to be the only OS installed, it will clobber your entire physical volume with its new partition layout and file systems. Not a big deal for a dedicated gaming machine but not what I want for my laptop.

Sadly, the main gaming specific competitor distro- bazzite, has a similar issue. You can install it to a partition (with limited options) but it has some compatibility issue with other EFI bootloaders, the quick fix for me was to install refit and use that to boot while I tested it

Manually installing steamos is on my might todo list, but I feel like someone, maybe Valve, will release an interactive installer soon as the momentum grows. I understand the reasoning, most gamers are not Linux power users, most of these desktop installs are probably gamers recycling old PCs not compatible with Windows’s latest requirements. Still, it would be nice to have some properly labeled footguns on the install media for those of us that want to participate in the testing and now rapidly growing community.

Steam, the app, its protondb/wine compatibility tools, etc all still work fine on my Mint setup, so there’s not much need for me to pursue this but I am curious about how their distro feels, and how well it would work as even a daily driver distro

Re: SteamOS Linux 3.8 released as stable

#65
I hope the Bluetooth audio latency issue I've been having is fixed. I have two Bluetooth pairs of headphones, one open-ear and one noise-cancelling, and they both have either a half-second or one-second latency between what happens on screen and the audio feedback.

Luckily wired headsets work perfectly fine.

Re: SteamOS Linux 3.8 released as stable

#66

I hope the Bluetooth audio latency issue I've been having is fixed. I have two Bluetooth pairs of headphones, one open-ear and one noise-cancelling, and they both have either a half-second or one-second latency between what happens on screen and the audio feedback. Luckily wired headsets work perfectly fine.

Trip report: FFXIV does great, but both Hades and Hollow Knight have atrocious lag. I don't know why different games are different for Bluetooth lag performance, when they're all great on my Windows machine.

Re: SteamOS Linux 3.8 released as stable

#67

I hope the Bluetooth audio latency issue I've been having is fixed. I have two Bluetooth pairs of headphones, one open-ear and one noise-cancelling, and they both have either a half-second or one-second latency between what happens on screen and the audio feedback. Luckily wired headsets work perfectly fine.

Do they work without noticable latency on other devices? I've always found the BT technology wasn't designed for gaming, it even has a feature to delay streamed video until the sound catches up in order to reduce latency for video+sound playback.

Re: SteamOS Linux 3.8 released as stable

#68
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Realistically, what should be expected if I run this in my desktop with AMD 9000x CPU and a NVIDIA RTX 5000x GPU?

You can expect it to not work. SteamOS is not designed or meant for installation as a generic OS. It is only designed to run on the specific supported hardware devices that it comes preinstalled on.

No matter how many times you see LTT install it on a system they have assembled, its not supposed to be used that way and not supported.

Re: SteamOS Linux 3.8 released as stable

#69

Very cool. As a Linux Mint user, I'm starting to get interested in SteamOS. So maybe someone with experience can answer my question: How good is SteamOS as a general distro for a desktop machine? What are the Pros and Cons?

SteamOS is not designed or meant for installation as a generic OS. It is only designed to run on the specific supported hardware devices that it comes preinstalled on.

No matter how many times you see LTT install it on a system they have assembled, its not supposed to be used that way and not supported.

Re: SteamOS Linux 3.8 released as stable

#70
post #63

I tried installing SteamOS on a couple machines last week. One pain point is that their install scripts are just that - non interactive scripts that are designed for gaming handhelds such as the steam deck. The main issue being it expects to be the only OS installed, it will clobber your entire physical volume with its new partition layout and file systems. Not a big deal for a dedicated gaming machine but not what I…

It really is not hard to install a Linux operating system manually. "Linux power users" should easily be able to handle bespoke installations.
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